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Pol: Foley's lousy, but he's no Ted [Shays says Chappaquiddick worse than page scandal]
New Your Daily News ^ | 10/12/06 | KENNETH R. BAZINET

Posted on 10/12/2006 12:47:55 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

WASHINGTON - The rancorous debate over disgraced ex-Rep. Mark Foley hit a new low yesterday when a GOP congressman said indiscretions with a male page were nothing compared to Sen. Ted Kennedy's Chappaquiddick incident. Rep. Chris Shays (R-Conn.) was trying to defend GOP House Speaker Dennis Hastert when he took aim at the Massachusetts Democrat.

"I know the speaker didn't go over a bridge and leave a young person in the water, and then have a press conference the next day," Shays told The Hartford Courant.

"Dennis Hastert didn't kill anybody," he added.

Kennedy was driving on the exclusive island near Martha's Vineyard when his car went off a bridge into a creek in July 1969, killing Mary Jo Kopechne, 28.

Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, but claimed he did not know the woman was in the backseat and faced no other charges.

The remark may have reflected partisan sour grapes since Kennedy last week helped raise money for Shays' opponent, Dianne Farrell. The Democrat is well within striking distance of ousting Shays.

"We don't know what [Hastert] has or hasn't done," Shays said. "But [Farrell] had a fund-raiser for Sen. Kennedy, and we know what he did."

Kennedy's office called it "a desperate attack."

President Bush, meanwhile, weighed in on Foley, calling the Florida Republican's e-mails to an underage male page "disgusting behavior." But Bush stuck by Hastert and predicted the Foley scandal would not be enough to flip control of Congress to the Democrats.

"This Foley issue bothers a lot of people, including me," Bush said at a press conference. "But I think when [voters] get in that booth, they're going to be thinking about how best to secure the country from attack, and how best to keep the economy growing."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foley; kennedy; pagescandal; shays

1 posted on 10/12/2006 12:47:56 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

This did not help this RINO.


2 posted on 10/12/2006 12:51:21 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I like Laura Ingham's idea of playing "Bridge over troubled waters" every time the U boat commander gets up to speak.


3 posted on 10/12/2006 12:51:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
The rancorous debate over disgraced ex-Rep. Mark Foley hit a new low yesterday ...

Not in my opinion. But then, I'm not a democrat. I'm sure they wish they could bury this one way deep but it keeps rearing its ugly head. Anyone else would have done time in the slammer for what he did.

4 posted on 10/12/2006 12:53:15 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

What scandal? Except for the main stream media, I don't know anyone who is talking about this or anyone who cares one way or the other. This will have little if any impact on the election, although if Republicans do lose seats the pundits and talking heads will blame Foley.


5 posted on 10/12/2006 12:54:10 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

"Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, but claimed he did not know the woman was in the backseat and faced no other charges."

Didn't know the woman was in the backseat?

I smell a political coverup for a rich, famous and influential congressman.


6 posted on 10/12/2006 12:57:54 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: boomop1

No, but it's been a long time coming for it to be said, out in public, just like that. Kennedy's a disgrace and deserves what he's got coming. His balloon payment for his deal with the devil is just about overdue.


7 posted on 10/12/2006 12:58:09 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: boomop1

Say it loud, say it proud. Teddy has been given a pass for too damn long.


8 posted on 10/12/2006 12:59:45 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: RedCell

VERY GOOD LINE, I`M STEALING IT


9 posted on 10/12/2006 1:01:37 PM PDT by bybybill (`IF TH E RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"Say it loud, say it proud. Teddy has been given a pass for too damn long."

Kerry...."I resemble that remark!"

10 posted on 10/12/2006 1:02:03 PM PDT by patriot_wes (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - may they prosper who love thee...Ps 122:6)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I love the way that going after Republicans with hammers and tongs, falsely accusing them of being everything from liars to Nazis to the real planners of 9/11, is just fair game, rough-and-tumble political rhetoric. But if any Republican ever dares to answer by pointing out what Democrats have actually done (from failing to accept bin Ladin on a platter to drowning mistresses to buggering underage interns), then politics has "hit a new low" and that Republican should apologize and resign immediately, or better yet, commit suicide in shame for slandering those poor Democrats. Welcome to the glaring double standard of the American left, by which I mean the Democratic Party and its PR wing, the mainstream media.


11 posted on 10/12/2006 1:02:51 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

I did'nt think Shays had it in him to say something like this!He's right,every time Foley comes up,bring up Kennedy or now,Reid!


12 posted on 10/12/2006 1:06:25 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

He disses Bush at every turn, screw him and his seat,


13 posted on 10/12/2006 1:09:26 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

14 posted on 10/12/2006 1:16:57 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: metmom; All
I don't get it. It's okay for them to chastise Hastert and everyone else, but mention Kennedy's murder of Mary Jo, or Monica, or Foster, or Whitewater, or any of the other hiccups by the Dims and there's all hell to pay. I'd like to see EVERY Republican haul out these things every time the Dims get on their moral soapbox.

I'm tired of Republicans playing nice while the Dims can sling all the mud they want with impunity. Come on Republicans, grab a bucket, gets some ba$$s, and start giving it back before it's too late.
15 posted on 10/12/2006 1:21:19 PM PDT by econjack
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

I am so proud of Shays for doing this but I think he could have handled it a little better. He should have know the media would crucify him and this would open him up to charges that he isn't the "bipartisan moderate" he proclaims himself to be. What he said will be totally taken out of context. I would have said "Ted Kennedy and Diane Farrell should not be lecturing anyone one about GOP scandals or cover ups when the Democrats have had plenty of their own. The Foley scandal was regrettable but he is gone and the party is handling it. What is reprehensible is for Farrell, Kennedy, and other Democrats to be leveling these scurrilous charges that the GOP is somehow soft on those who prey on children. Nothing could be further from the truth."

Just my 2 cents.


16 posted on 10/12/2006 1:21:51 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: boomop1

doesnt hurt


17 posted on 10/12/2006 1:27:50 PM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: econjack
Notice how Republicans have to be paragons of virtue, faultless as Jesus Himself, but dems... oh well... what a person does in their private lives is nobody's business, it doesn't affect how they serve in public office, yada, yada, yada,...

I, too, wish the Republicans wouldn't play so nice.

18 posted on 10/12/2006 1:31:18 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi


19 posted on 10/12/2006 1:36:54 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: USS Alaska
Good one, USSA!


20 posted on 10/12/2006 1:40:13 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
I'll get you for that Shays. Want to go for a ride?


21 posted on 10/12/2006 1:40:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64
Lord, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just past lunch time here. Pardon me while I go and barf!

22 posted on 10/12/2006 1:45:06 PM PDT by ssaftler ("The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" - Al "Chicken Little" Gore)
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To: metmom

IF the one guy on record was correct - he was eighteen and of age.......and claimed he was egging him on for sport. The rest is hearsay and questionable. When you have actionable criminal evidence, then you can arrest him and throw away the key as far as I am concerned. But real criminal cases need real victims and real evidence. Short of that, there is nothing anyone can do.

Just ask Bill Clinton - he's had lots of woman step forward and go on the record and he is a democratic icon. A real case is hard to prove. He played the system and won. Go figure.


23 posted on 10/12/2006 1:49:40 PM PDT by tioga
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To: metmom
"Kennedy pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, but claimed he did not know the woman was in the backseat and faced no other charges"

This is an outright lie by this reporter. Kennedy never claimed he didn't know the woman was in his back seat. Of course he knew, he left the party with him, got in his car and they drove off together. After the car went in the creek Kennedy claimed he repeatedly dove under water to rescue her and failed to reach her. Rather than going to the first house near the water, which happened to be the volunteer fire capt. and head of the scuba team, Kennedy instead walked about a mile back to the party and took his friend and cousin aside and whispered in their ear that there had been an accident and that Mary Jo was trapped in the car. Horrified the two men took Kennedy, piled in their car and drove back to the scene. There the two friends dove into the water while Kennedy looked on from the shore. After they were unsuccessful Kennedy later jumped from the car and swan to the mainland, supposedly to report the accident, or so his friends thought!

Instead Kennedy headed back to his hotel, changed into dry clothes, went out on his balcony and called out to a hotel worker an inquiry about the time (to establish his alibi that he was at the hotel no doubt) Kennedy then went to bed, arose in the morning, put on his yachting clothes and went walking towards town. While passing a friends house who was out on the porch having coffee Kennedy stopped to chat about the sailing regatta later in the day and how he was looking forward to it. It was then that he happened to look over at the landing and noticed a tow truck and police car getting on a ferry and he knew that his car had been discovered at the bottom of the lake. So he excused himself from coffee and chit chat and made his way over the police dept to report and accident. Some 12 hours after the accident had occured.

Now my memory may be a little fuzzy since I'm going from memory of having read the book, Senatorial Privledge written by his cousin Joe, the same man that was there that night and helped by trying to dive under the water. He could no longer hold his silence and helped write the book after 2o years. So this reporter is either lying by claiming Kennedy's innocence in that he didn't know there was a woman in the car or he's a poor excuse for a reporter.

I guess what really matters though is a least Kennedy has never been accused of sending an indecent IM to another adult male. Now that would really be horrible in comparison!!

24 posted on 10/12/2006 1:49:43 PM PDT by marlon
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To: RedCell
Kennedy's a disgrace and deserves what he's got coming. His balloon payment for his deal with the devil is just about overdue.

Love the that line......balloon payment is waaaaaaaaay overdue. Love it.

25 posted on 10/12/2006 1:51:57 PM PDT by tioga
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Teddie is a fat murdering drunking slob with no redeeming qualities.


26 posted on 10/12/2006 1:52:50 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc

fat ted...is a kennedy ...never expect anything more!!!

especially from this fat drunken turd!!!!


27 posted on 10/12/2006 2:25:08 PM PDT by hnj_00
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To: chiefqc
Teddie is a fat murdering drunking slob with no redeeming qualities.

Other than those truths, what's your opinion of him? I'd add he's a moral hypocrite with the IQ of custard.

28 posted on 10/12/2006 2:32:57 PM PDT by econjack
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To: marlon

Thanks for that. That happened when I was much younger and I never really got all the details put together like that.

Disgusting.


29 posted on 10/12/2006 2:33:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: marlon

You left out that Teddy was drunk enough to want to keep away from the police that night. That's why he went to the hotel for the night.


30 posted on 10/12/2006 2:40:00 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: italianquaker
Probably not, I guess I'll cave we need every seat we squeeze out.
31 posted on 10/12/2006 2:52:44 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia; gonzo

pang!..............FRegards


32 posted on 10/12/2006 3:22:23 PM PDT by Mata-Sherry (Tagline?...Sorry. Not printable........)
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To: truth_seeker

Well how did he know she was the "backseat" then? This is the first time I've heard this angle. I thought Kennedy had "tried" to save Kopechne, but just wasn't able. Which was it, Ted?


33 posted on 10/12/2006 3:40:57 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: econjack

Shame on you. What did custard ever do to you to be include in the same sentence as the murdering fat drunken slob?


34 posted on 10/12/2006 4:43:58 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

"...hit a new low ..."

Actually, it hit a new high.


35 posted on 10/12/2006 4:45:24 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: ANGGAPO

Your right that was so obviuos to me that I just glossed over it. Good point.


36 posted on 10/12/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by marlon
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To: chiefqc

"Teddie is a fat murdering drunking slob with no redeeming qualities."

But you don't mean that in a bad way, right? ;-)


37 posted on 10/12/2006 4:54:20 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: tioga; bybybill

Thanks! Feel free to use and abuse. Don't forget about the "sandwich" he and Dodd shared a ways back as well. Freakin' pigs.

You can get a reference point about that here:

http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2005/11/systemic-corruption-in-democratic.html


38 posted on 10/12/2006 4:59:36 PM PDT by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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