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Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official
AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | October 14, 2006

Posted on 10/14/2006 11:16:50 AM PDT by lizol

Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official 2 hours.

WARSAW (AFP) - Poland's deputy education minister called for the influential evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin not to be taught in the country's schools, branding them "lies."

"The theory of evolution is a lie, an error that we have legalised as a common truth," Miroslaw Orzechowski, the deputy minister in the country's right-wing coalition government, was quoted as saying by the Gazeta Wyborcza daily Saturday.

Orzechowski said the theory was "a feeble idea of an aged non-believer," who had come up with it "perhaps because he was a vegetarian and lacked fire inside him."

The evolution theory of the 19th-century British naturalist holds that existing animals and plants are the result of natural selection which eliminated inferior species gradually over time. This conflicts with the "creationist" theory that God created all life on the planet in a finite number.

Orzechowski called for a debate on whether Darwin's theory should be taught in schools.

"We should not teach lies, just as we should not teach bad instead of good, or ugliness instead of beauty," he said. "We are not going to withdraw (Darwin's theory) from the school books, but we should start to discuss it."

The deputy minister is a member of a Catholic far-right political group, the League of Polish Families. The league's head, Roman Giertych, is education minister in the conservative coalition government of Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski.

Giertych's father Maciej, who represents the league in the European Parliament, organised a discussion there last week on Darwinism. He described the theory as "not supported by proof" and called for it be removed from school books.

The far-right joined the government in May when Kaczynski's ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, after months of ineffective minority government, formed a coalition including LPR and the populist Sambroon party.

Roman Giertych has not spoken out on Darwinism, but the far-right politician's stance on other issues has stirred protest in Poland since he joined the government.

A school pupils' association was expected to demonstrate in front of the education ministry on Saturday to call for his resignation.


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KEYWORDS: creationism; crevolist; darwin; education; enoughalready; evolution; faith; keywordwars; moralabsolutes; poland; preacher; religion; seethingnaturalists; skullporn
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To: ml1954
It can be hard at times to tell true racism from monumental, has-its-own-gravitational-field ignorance. This is one of those times. But it's embarrassing either way.
361 posted on 10/15/2006 7:29:10 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Dave! All you are going to do is have an early heart attack if you remember every perceived insult that has ever happened to you.


362 posted on 10/15/2006 7:31:39 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: ml1954

Indeed it is.


363 posted on 10/15/2006 7:33:44 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Coyoteman

I notice the usual personal attacks from the Creationists. As always, the rest approve by their silence. The comments sound exactly like those fighting against the civil rights movements in the 1960s.


364 posted on 10/15/2006 7:34:06 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: balrog666

Sure seems that way placemarker.


365 posted on 10/15/2006 7:34:06 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: VadeRetro
It can be hard at times to tell true racism from monumental, has-its-own-gravitational-field ignorance.

A strong whiff of the former proved fatal to that account, combined with a likelihood of previous existences.

366 posted on 10/15/2006 7:37:28 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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The prompt attention to 312 is appreciated. Thanks!
367 posted on 10/15/2006 7:37:41 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Materialists cannot abide any disagreement with their pap.


368 posted on 10/15/2006 7:38:42 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: RadioAstronomer

Also left alone was the post telling scientist to go to to Africa and stay. Sans further evidence, this must be the official FR position.


369 posted on 10/15/2006 7:38:56 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
I notice the usual personal attacks from the Creationists. As always, the rest approve by their silence. The comments sound exactly like those fighting against the civil rights movements in the 1960s.

Right. No need for personal attacks when you have all the evidence in favor of the theory of evolution on your side!

370 posted on 10/15/2006 7:39:08 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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I see we cross-posted. Thanks again!
371 posted on 10/15/2006 7:39:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro (A systematic investigation of nature does not negotiate with crackpots.)
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Thank you removing post #312...its appreciated...


372 posted on 10/15/2006 7:41:55 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: lizol

yes, I guess it's dangerous to be honest and allow the holes and competing theories of ID and creationism to be taught. I thought schools were places where people were free to learn all sides and then come up with what they see as reality. Evolution theory is a jealous theory; because it's not clearly supported by the fossil record...one can try and claim some fossils to be transitional but they are dubious at best. The evolutionists are in deep denial about that fact. I hope they wake up because the truth is so much more interesting.


373 posted on 10/15/2006 7:42:05 PM PDT by fabian
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To: nmh

Placemarker


374 posted on 10/15/2006 7:47:11 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: fabian
Evolution theory is a jealous theory; because it's not clearly supported by the fossil record...one can try and claim some fossils to be transitional but they are dubious at best. The evolutionists are in deep denial about that fact. I hope they wake up because the truth is so much more interesting.

Have you actually studied the fossils that contribute to the theory of evolution?

Please give me an estimate, however rough, of the time you have spent with casts of these fossils and with actual human bones.

You realize that if the answer is zero, your opinion is not worth very much.

375 posted on 10/15/2006 7:49:56 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
You realize that if the answer is zero, your opinion is not worth very much.

Gee, that means it's as valuable as yours. Maybe more.

377 posted on 10/15/2006 7:52:56 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: VadeRetro
I was referring to the bias most closely associated with the non-science versed on threads like this.
378 posted on 10/15/2006 7:55:42 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; DannyTN
You are citing answersingenesis and DannyTN as your sources on a scientific question?

You must be kidding! Try reading a scientific journal sometime.

You said somewhere you are a student, check out the library. There are likely whole floors of evidence there supporting the theory of evolution, if you would only look.

(But, I guess its easier to ignore it all and try to just hand wave it away.)

380 posted on 10/15/2006 7:58:00 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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