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To: curiosity
"The falsehood of Darwinism is the claim that the universe is a dead purposeless machine ruled by chance."

Do you care to point out the passage where Darwin claims "that the universe is a dead purposeless machine ruled by chance?" I've read him extensively, and never have I run accross such a passage.

I do not mean actual Darwin. I mean "Darwinism" as it is being propagated today.

207 posted on 10/15/2006 5:21:24 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: A. Pole
I do not mean actual Darwin.

Okay. So do you broadly accept Darwin's theory as the best, empirically-verified scientific explanation for the origin of species and biological diversity?

I mean "Darwinism" as it is being propagated today.

Where is this "Darwinism" of yours being propagated?

Surely this "Darwinism" you speak of cannot be the same thing as the modern neo-Darwinian theory of biological evolution as it is commonly taught in modern biology courses. I have looked at many textbooks on evolutionary biology, and I have yet to see one that claims the universe is a "dead purposeless machine."

258 posted on 10/15/2006 1:24:22 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: A. Pole
"I do not mean actual Darwin. I mean "Darwinism" as it is being propagated today."

You are aware I hope that the 'Darwinism' presented by your local creationist is a strawman which does not resemble the current state of Evolutionary science.

268 posted on 10/15/2006 2:11:42 PM PDT by b_sharp (evolution is not, generally speaking, a global optimiser, but a general satisficer -J. Wilkins)
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