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Cross Putin and die [Since he became President, 13 journalists have been murdered]
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | October 15, 2006 | By Olga Craig

Posted on 10/15/2006 9:40:18 AM PDT by aculeus

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To: aculeus

"To be honest, I think what I did, in retrospect, was foolish. I was chasing glory. Anna's murder made me realise that, in Moscow, writing about the wrong things can get you shot." "

This fellow knows his Russian History - how very sad.


21 posted on 10/15/2006 6:50:44 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: streetpreacher
"That's very American of you..."

Don't preach to me...

I am 100% convinced that a lot of Americans and our allies would be alive today, or their deaths not wasted -- had a few of our own "journalists" met an early terminal fate..

I'll name one in particular for you to ponder if their "life and work" was worth the cost..

Walter Cronkite.
I could add more - but most didn't reach the depth that Cronkite did...

Semper Fi

22 posted on 10/15/2006 6:51:55 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: 1rudeboy

None have been solved.


23 posted on 10/15/2006 6:55:18 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: aculeus

Sounds like Vlad is going after Clinton's record.


24 posted on 10/15/2006 7:02:37 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: samadams2000
This streak could rival Clintons when finished..Nahhh.

Awww, you beat me to it. Of course the Clintons never had to kill anyone in the media, they do the Clintons bidding.

25 posted on 10/15/2006 7:09:49 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: samadams2000
This streak could rival Clintons when finished

Putincide?

26 posted on 10/15/2006 8:03:58 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: aculeus
The last document over the signature of Anna Politkovskaya was an appeal to society and the state authorities to "Stop the Persecution of Georgia"' I am proud of the fact that my signature is alongside hers.
27 posted on 10/15/2006 8:10:39 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Agrarian; aculeus; Tailgunner Joe; Thunder90; lizol
parliament of Georgia

"" In a statement made on Russian television President Putin’s foreign policy advisor, Mr. Gleb Pavlovski said, referring to Georgian-Russian relationship and President Saakashvili’s policy, that “sometimes difficult problems can be solved with one bullet”."

28 posted on 10/15/2006 9:25:12 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: aculeus
Firstly, there were over twice as many journalists murdered under Yeltsin as Putin.

Secondly, there are several individuals who had strong motives to murder Alla Polikovskaya, Putin was not one of them. One was a colonel she was influencial in sending to prisom for murdering a Chechen girl. The second is the head of Chechnya, whom she was investigating and about to break a major story.

Finally, Putin as of September 21, 2006 had a 77% approval rating in Russia, and Polikovskaya was not highly regarded in Russia as she was in the West. She was no threat to Putin.
29 posted on 10/15/2006 10:04:20 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: river rat

How about Daniel Ellsberg? Isn't he the patriot that published the Pentagon Papers?


30 posted on 10/15/2006 10:07:19 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: GarySpFc
Finally, Putin as of September 21, 2006 had a 77% approval rating in Russia

In a June survey of Russians by Moscow's Yuri Levada polling center, 58 percent of those polled approved of the "Russia for Russians" slogan, almost twice the level recorded in 1998. One out of 5 of those polled said all non- Russians should be evicted from "traditionally Russian territories."

Yes, Putin and his new nationalism are popular in Russia. On that we can agree.

31 posted on 10/15/2006 10:11:50 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: GSlob
AD 861 comment of Gostomysl of Novgorod ["the land is rich and plentiful, but there is no order in it"]

Most probably fake. Gostomysl appears only in the "History" written in XVIII century by a Peter's the Great grandee Vasiliy Tatishchev.

He quotes so called "Ipatievskaya chronicle" but there's no any manuscript of it.

We find Gostomysl in "Annales Fuldenses". [Hannoverae, 1891 p. 35]. He was a king of Western Slavic tribal union Obodrites, they lived in today's Northen Germany, close to Denmark. East-Frankish king Ludwig killed Gostomysl in 844 during a war. The war's reason was that Gostomysl wanted to secede.

The medieval Rus chronicles which quote "The Tale of Bygone Years" (no manuscript of the latter again) say that certain Slavic, Baltic and Finnish tribes offered a Viking Prince Roerik kingship on terms of a treaty what was the beginning of the Kievan Rus's state.

Some historians identify Roeric as Roeric of Jutland, a son of a Danish konung, and known in Western European chronicles.

32 posted on 10/16/2006 1:34:18 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior
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To: JadeEmperor

See # 32 regarding # 17.


33 posted on 10/16/2006 1:37:01 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior
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To: RinaseaofDs
"How about Daniel Ellsberg? Isn't he the patriot that published the Pentagon Papers?"

Ellsberg was neither a journalist or a patriot...

He was a Government employed Military Analyst, who copied and released to the New York Times - Confidential material. Sound familiar?

His release, strengthened the "cause" of the Leftist's objection to the war that was being WON -- leading to our "cut and run" and abandonment of allies. Sound familiar?

Subsequently many of those South Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodian and Ethnic Hill tribes were persecuted, murdered or enslaved by the Communists we were fighting...... Contrary to the "promise" of peace from Fonda and her Marxist husband at the time.. Sound familiar?

Another thing I'll bet never registered in your "education" or "recollection" of events from those times....
The American student protests and marches against the war, ceased as soon as the Draft was eliminated....
It wasn't the war the cowards protested -- it was the possibility that THEY may be drawn in to it...
I guess they didn't mind when others were doing the fighting and dieing. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Ellsberg a patriot? Hell, Ellsberg wouldn't amount to a pimple on a patriot's ass.
Ellsberg was one of those that contributed to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and squandering the patriot dead that had died to secure that victory.

Semper Fi

34 posted on 10/16/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Ellsberg a patriot? Hell, Ellsberg wouldn't amount to a pimple on a patriot's ass.
Ellsberg was one of those that contributed to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and squandering the patriot dead that had died to secure that victory.

Amen! Well said.
35 posted on 10/16/2006 9:08:44 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: aculeus; river rat; 2banana

While every editorial today noted the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists’ startling statistic that 13 journalists have been killed since Putin took office in 2000, 29 reporters were murdered during the Yeltsin administration, and business-related killings were far more common during the 1990s.


36 posted on 10/16/2006 9:45:46 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: river rat

Sorry you missed my sarcasm. I agree with your premise that we should be locking up journalist and executing them for treason. Especially during a time of war.


37 posted on 10/16/2006 10:48:36 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
I'm sorry too..

Guess in my old age, I've become more "trigger happy"..
I shoot at EVERYTHING beyond the wire now..

Sorry.

Semper Fi
38 posted on 10/16/2006 11:23:57 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Don't be!

We know where you stand. How could that be a bad thing. Meanwhile, I'm going to get some Irish Whiskey, and a pair of needlenose pliers to extricate the buckshot from my fanny.


39 posted on 10/16/2006 1:06:54 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: aculeus
"...in Moscow, writing about the wrong things can get you shot."

It's a shame. Moscow is becoming as hazardous as Arkansas was to those who cross the wrong people.

40 posted on 10/16/2006 1:08:35 PM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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