Posted on 10/15/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by US Navy guy
A bolthole is a secure escape route or hiding place.
North Koreans elites are looking for places to escape to when Kim is taken out.
> since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back? <
It has indeed happened from time to time. Check your history.
And just remember, "There's no honor among thieves."
Stalin had Trotsky killed in Mexico City in the 1930s.
Who is a pathetic China apologist? Oh, and what was your solution again? I didn't seem to find it in your post.
Sorry I guess I'm just not willing to give up one brutal dictator for another. Nor am I willing to presume I have all the answers.
Actually, it's not so much a Aussie term, as
it is a hunting term. A bolthole, is a hole a
wild animal will run to, to hide, when being
chased. Think 'safe house', or 'rabbit hole/.
Bump...
> Stalin had Trotsky killed in Mexico City in the 1930s <
Well, it wasn't exactly a "stab in the back" -- rather it literally was an axe into the head, as I recall. But an excellent example nonetheless!
And how can one overlook the thousands of loyal Communists, mostly apparatchiks and military officers, who were murdered by Stalin's thugs in the 1930's?
Or what about the Sino-Soviet battles along the Amur River in 1969?
Or the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia in 1978?
Or the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979?
Just as there's no honor among thieves, neither is there honor among Reds.
Letting China control North Korea seems disturbingly like allowing Russia to have eastern Europe. Granted we didn't have much choice in Europe but I can't see that the result would be much better.
i think it would be a great deal better,
for all nvolved including China, there are great
disadvantages for them, if things continue along
the path thet they are on now.
Besides, i doubt that China really *wants* to have
NK be it's sole burden..and if they expect
international cooperation, they would not "annex"
NK, as much as facilitate it's stabilization,..
with joint assistance, to keeping the NK in NK,
and feeding them *there*.
The Chinese like to think they take the long view of such things. Certainly it would cost the Skors a fortune, but they would have little choice but to pay for reunification, it is a national prerogative.
And once it was done, from the Chinese point of view, they would finally be rid of an annoying threat on their border than has troubled them for almost 60 years.
Winning the friendship and huge markets of all of Korea and only losing a pestiferous, dishonorable, thieving and treacherous Kim sounds like a really good deal for them.
And from the US point of view, Korea would be unoffensive, maintaining a form of democratic government acceptable to both the US and China, and also keeping trade ties with the rest of the world. And if Korea is happy with China, far be it from us to stand in their way.
Any different than the last 50 years?
Lil' Kimmy's a Chinese puppet that went bad. So replacing him with a different Chinese puppet that obeys China should return the peninsula back to the status quo.
Not good, but not bad either.
Useful fools propaganda... since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?
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Russia and China... are did you forget the border conflicts between the two? Not to mention Nixon... and how we managed to turn China into an ally against the Soviet Union.
I also expect Russia and other Former Soviet states to eventually purge their capitalists and return to the "good old days" of the USSR, as Putin and all potential successors are KGB commie thugs. North Korea is a Marxist holdout for both Jintao and Putin.
Not to mention that Russia woundn't mind the chance to test some SU-47's and MiG 1.44s and the Chinese testing the J-xx against our flyboys
"Useful fools propaganda... since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?"Like there was a little war between China and Vietnam in 1979, remember? Or the border clashes between USSR and China. Or Soviets invading their satellite communists states in Eastern Europe. Just because two nations are communist doesn't mean they can't have scores to settle.
"I also expect Russia and other Former Soviet states to eventually purge their capitalists and return to the "good old days" of the USSR, as Putin and all potential successors are KGB commie thugs. North Korea is a Marxist holdout for both Jintao and Putin."I don't believe there is a definitive basis for this eventuality. At least with Russia. Putin may be authoritarian, and play it like a mafia boss sometimes, but there is still a whole lot that separates today's Russia from 1983 USSR. Russia may become more authoritarian, even fascist nationalist in the years to come (2008 will be a key year, a sort of "crossroads" for Russia) but I don't believe a return to a fully-fledged Marxist totalitarian state is possible for Russia. They will probably strive to reclaim dominance in all the traditional areas which the Russian Empire and USSR once ruled, but hardly more than that. And do you seriously believe Ukraine, the Baltics, etc, central Asian ex-Soviet republics can go back in flash?
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