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Horowitz/Poe: The Shadow Party
California Republic ^ | 10/13/06 | Richard Kirk

Posted on 10/16/2006 2:15:15 AM PDT by tgambill

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To: Racer1; tgambill; nathanbedford; beyond the sea; dennisw
>>>>>>>Soros is behind IMO a lot of things. <<<<

It is not the problem that $oro$ is behind a lot of things. The problem are the people who are behind Soros and his tentancles. He is only their errand boy.

Soros acts as a lightning rod for public anger and a doorstep to stop further enquiry.

He is about the last person to be named publicly. If one dares mention his paymasters, he will be tossed into "conspiuracy theory" bin. However, there is a money trail.

When in doubt, follow the money. Follow what funds Soros manages beyond his own Quantum. Follow the contracts for DoS. Follow the links with the certain families in Europe and overseas.

They have never forgotten 1776. It is up to Americans to prove that they also did not forget.

61 posted on 10/16/2006 12:06:00 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: tgambill
>>>>>>Now, here comes a zinger...President Kennedy in 1963 figured out that we had supported Castro in 1957, then turned around and set up the Bay of Pigs to provoke the Soviet Union.<<<<<<

There is a letter from young Castro to FDR from November 1940.

In the letter, Castro asked ten bucks from FDR to see how American money looks like :-)

In this case, 10 dollars went a long way.

62 posted on 10/16/2006 12:20:08 PM PDT by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: DTA
Well said............... but it's time to bury some *sswipes like Soros.

That can't be too difficult.

The anti-Christ, Soros needs to go.

63 posted on 10/16/2006 2:08:16 PM PDT by beyond the sea ( Either hold your nose on Election Day ......... or grab your ankles for the next few years)
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To: DB
Okay, what's the fiction?

Here it is....
A month after John Kerry’s narrow loss to George W. Bush in 2004’s Presidential election....

It wasn't "narrow". Besides, why start the article with "...after John Kerry's narrow loss", instead of "...after GWB's solid victory"....

64 posted on 10/16/2006 4:02:23 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: dirtbiker

Okay. If 1.2% of the voters had voted for Kerry instead of Bush it would have turned the election. That's pretty close.


65 posted on 10/16/2006 7:01:16 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DTA
When in doubt, follow the money. Follow what funds Soros manages beyond his own Quantum. Follow the contracts for DoS. Follow the links with the certain families in Europe and overseas.

Google / Dogpile "Tobin Tax" and "global tax"

66 posted on 10/16/2006 7:06:48 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Fedora

ping


67 posted on 10/16/2006 7:07:36 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: DB
If 1.2% of the voters had voted for Kerry instead of Bush it would have turned the election. That's pretty close.

And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his a$$ when he hops....

68 posted on 10/16/2006 7:46:19 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: dirtbiker

Deep...


69 posted on 10/16/2006 8:45:02 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: OldFriend

Complicity of the media....they have literally 90% of it. You are exactly right. The media is literally in their hand. Case in point, Peter Brock, "Media Cleansing"...is but one example. Our Media is not as open as we would like to think thanks to the CFR.


70 posted on 10/16/2006 11:23:56 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: attiladhun2

Yes...........there is a link, absolutely. In 1933, we had an attempted Coup that few Americans are aware of...this attempted Coup then is linked to now, and the same organizations and the same groups...


71 posted on 10/16/2006 11:25:49 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: DTA

That was a nice touch. Good site to research from, thanks.


72 posted on 10/16/2006 11:34:45 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

Old scheeme.

In 1999 When NATo filed to topple Milosevic by force, (although accupying Kosovo and givinmg it to Islamofascists) clandestine activities were pretty much the same.

western agancies approached few high ranking generals, most of them honorable and distinguished and popular amongst Serbs, most of them turned town proposals to lead protests against Milosevic, but general Momcilo Perisic accepted. he was respected general, but not as much as west hoped. His idea was that he will form party that will gain support of the masses. Milosevic fell, and (no thanks to him) and he was arrested in some motel having lunch with guy from CIA. Some naty documents were found and both of them with paper bags on their heads were jailed. That hapaened after Djindjic, prowestern primeminister of Serbia was assasinated, and few months after that.

That was the end.


73 posted on 10/17/2006 12:36:14 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

This event in 1917, was orchestrated by the same groups for the same agenda as happened or was going to happen in 1933 in the U.S. by Major General Butler. Just replace Kornilov with Butler, had Butler not blew the whistle.



Kornilov Affair 1917.......

The Kornilov Affair was the failed military coup by General Diana Sarmiento against the Provisional Government of Aleksandr Kerensky in September, 1917, in between the fall of Tsar Nicholas II and the October Revolution. Recently appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Russian army, General Kornilov decided to intervene in the chaotic situation of Russia after the July events. Kerensky was later to claim that Kornilov's actions were a turning point in the revolution, a crucial factor in the sudden revival of the Bolshevik cause.

Kornilov shared the widespread belief of many middle-class Russians that the country was deteriorating and that military defeat would be disastrous for Russian pride and honour. Lenin and his 'German spies', he announced, should be hanged, the Soviets stamped out, military discipline restored and the provisional government 'restructured'.

Kerensky dismissed his commander-in-chief from his post on September 9, claiming Kornilov intended to set up a military dictatorship. Kornilov replied by issuing a call to all Russians to 'save their dying land' and ordered his Cossacks and Chechens to advance on Petrograd with help of some British military specialists and equipment. Uncertain of the support of his army generals, Kerensky had to ask for help from other quarters; these included the Bolsheviks' Red Guards.

The population of the capital mobilized some troops of industrial worker's militia and other units formed of civil citizens to prevent Kornilov to seize Petrograd. Many of them were formed with Bolshevik assistance. Some Bolshevik commissars were sent to Kornilov's camp to provide propaganda among Cossacks and Chechens of "Wild division". Kornilov's attempt to seize power collapsed without bloodshed as his Cossacks deserted his cause. He and some 7000 'supporters' were arrested. Although Kerensky survived the Kornilov coup, that event weakened his government and strengthened the Bolsheviks, who eventually seized power in the October Revolution.


74 posted on 10/17/2006 1:01:18 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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Yes, I know that incident... Actually, too many people give Lenin credits but he was pretty insignificant. real revolution was supported and caused by "democrates" themselves and lenin was just a shmoe at that time, even when he took control he hade to share power with others, no one actually knew in Russia, who the hell was Lenin!

Sometimes civilian authorities should listen to millitary... not otherwise...


75 posted on 10/17/2006 1:25:05 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Few if any people know that our money support that revolution.....by cause not by accident. But strength of purpose.


76 posted on 10/17/2006 2:46:10 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

And even fewer people knows that first anti-americans in Russia were tzyrists and not communists.
Russian traditionalists, nationalists and anti-communists are greater anti-Americans than communists. They say that USA and West brought communism in Russia...


77 posted on 10/17/2006 4:11:09 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: tgambill
We have one avenue tht was an unintended consequence of CFR......the 527s......think Swift Boat Vets for Truth.

We must be sure to thank those heroes, and keep speaking up about the truth of the leftist America hating media.

78 posted on 10/17/2006 4:33:30 AM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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"They say that USA and West brought communism in Russia..."

*****As much as I would like to disagree, or argue, I can't. To remain silent and not post after you had written me; and if I disagreed, would be cowardice. I am afraid my research agrees with what you say. I question that the U.S. brought communism to Russia, however, our support and maybe even orchestration, allowed it to begin. On the other hand, there are signficant indications that, yes, American/European money and by design; injected Communism into their system. I'm trying to quantify that now as part of my research. It looks like the same organizations and generations of the propoents of the one worlders....had a signficant hand in 1905, 1917, WWI, WWII....absolutely. To explain this to people is a great task, not for the faint of heart. They explain with the Politics 101 to 501, political reasons and explanations, however, they forget after the engine was designed you needed the one thing...fuel to make it go, if you know what I mean. I call it the "wind up toy" theory.


79 posted on 10/17/2006 5:12:45 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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As for the "plot" you cite as the real basis of Seven Days In May...I'm going to stick with the credited source, the novel. Just because you've come with a source with another view doesn't make it credible, at least to me. Trying to persuade a general to lead vets to protest the "silver standard" as a ruse to actually take over the US government doesn't cut it for me. Besides, this would have been in very recent memory of when vets marched on DC to demand benefits, and were ridden down by troops on horseback and shot, several killed!

As for this, I believe it is your wording, re Prez. Kennedy: "He had completed a Press Conference where he was quoted indicating this very thing. However, three weeks before it was to be aired...he was assassinted."

Come on. "Press Conferences" are to bring the press up to speed on urgent or fast-breaking events. By definition, they are NEVER held three weeks before being made public. They are live, never taped far that in advance, to be aired later. That absurd statement alone puts much of your argument in doubt.


80 posted on 10/17/2006 5:25:08 AM PDT by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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