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Evolution — No longer inspiring the confidence it once did
Uncommon Descent ^ | 10/15/06 | William Dembski

Posted on 10/16/2006 5:09:46 AM PDT by Tribune7

I just received this press release. I want to encourage conversation here about its accuracy and significance.

PRESS RELEASE

Wednesday, October 11th was an historic day in the life of the European Parliament.

Polish member of the European Parliament, Maciej Giertych, retired head of the Genetics Department of the Polish Academy of Science, and father of Polish Deputy Prime Minister, Roman Giertych, introduced a public seminar on the General Theory of Evolution to fellow MEP’s.

Professor Giertych questioned the value of teaching a continually falsified hypothesis - macroevolution - to students throughout Europe, as well as pointing out its lack of usefulness in regard to scientific endeavour.

Professor Giertych introduced the subject by relating how his children had returned home from school having been taught about the theory of evolution. They were told that the proof of macroevolution - the common ancestry of biological life - was to be found in the science of genetics. This was news to Professor Giertych who had spent his life working at the highest level of genetic research. He revealed to the meeting that such proof does not exist in genetics, only disproof.

This was reinforced by the speech of Professor Emeritus Joseph Mastropaolo who had travelled from the USA to participate in the Brussels hearing. He explained that the biological sciences offer no empirical proof of macroevolution, just insurmountable problems. The theory of evolution consists merely of interpretational evidences which by their very nature could be interpreted in many different ways. He told the audience that the theory, after more than 150 years, still lacked any empirical proof.

Dr. Hans Zillmer, a German Palaeontologist and member of the New York Academy of Sciences, told the meeting that the fossil record holds no proof for evolution theory either. Instead of showing gradual change from one species to another, as is often claimed in the classroom, it actually reveals the stasis and stability of life forms.

Finally, Dr. Guy Berthault spoke to the audience about the results of his empirical research programmes concerning the deposition of sediments. Contrary to the established idea that the geologic column was formed slowly over millions of years, horizontal layer by layer, he revealed that his ongoing research proves empirically that the whole column could have been laid down in a matter of months. His research, which has been published in journals of the National Academy of Sciences in France, Russia and China, shows that continuous deposition of water borne sediments sort themselves mechanically and a simple change in current velocity cause strata to build upon each other whilst still progressing in the direction of flow.

In opposition to the existing notion of sediment deposition that is generally taught, Dr. Berthault revealed that his empirical experimental results clearly show that parts of undisturbed lower strata are actually younger than parts of higher strata laid down in a continuous flow.

This means that fossils can not be dated by the strata that they are found in, nor the rocks dated by the type of fossils found in them and makes nonsense of the geologic column as it is currently taught.

Amongst those helping to organise the historic seminar were Dr. Dominique Tassot, Director of Centre d’Etude et de Prospectives sur la Science (C.E.P). C.E.P. is an organisation consisting of 700 French speaking scientists, intellectuals and representatives of other professions, all of whom oppose evolutionary theory on scientific grounds.

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Contact:

C.E.P. - s.cep@wanadoo.fr

Information: research conducted by Dr. G. Berthault

http://geology.ref.ac/berthault

Attachment for general information:

Recent interview with Dr. Tassot - August 22nd, 2006.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: enoughalready; evolution; id; intelligentdesign
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1 posted on 10/16/2006 5:09:47 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: PatrickHenry; DaveLoneRanger

for your lists


2 posted on 10/16/2006 5:10:09 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

But it sure makes a great religion!


3 posted on 10/16/2006 5:11:18 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: Tribune7; PatrickHenry

What a load of revisionist sciencific coprolite.


4 posted on 10/16/2006 5:12:31 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Tribune7
Oh you forgot the "everybody be nice" instruction.

I realllllly like that thing that holds evolution theory together, ".......continually falsified hypothesis ......"

Should be enough said but oh well got to protect those whose survival is dependent upon education TAX dollars.
5 posted on 10/16/2006 5:15:24 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Tribune7
>Evolution — No longer inspiring the confidence it once did

It never inspired any confidence amongst intelligent people.

6 posted on 10/16/2006 5:16:18 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: Tribune7
Evolution Happened(s).
7 posted on 10/16/2006 5:16:30 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Tribune7

I just clicked on the link. This piece is included at Dembski's website, but he did not write it. He posted it to invite others to discuss its merits and demerits.


8 posted on 10/16/2006 5:16:55 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Tribune7

It's fascinating that the most dogmatic evolutionists are not from agnostic/atheistic continental Europe...rather they are from the English speaking world--Americans and Britons mostly.

The French and the Germans scientific communities are more open to doubting evolution than any scientists in the USA.


9 posted on 10/16/2006 5:18:57 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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(I felt it necessary to stress that point to counter the Darwin cultists who will otherwise attempt to deceitfully or ignorantly hijack the thread and claim--falsely--that Dembski authored the piece)
10 posted on 10/16/2006 5:19:11 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Tribune7
Reading all of these non scientific papers in an attempt to falsify scientific theories in evolution and geology is painful.

It's too bad so many people buy into it.

11 posted on 10/16/2006 5:23:29 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: JCEccles
Do you know what a cult is or does?

A cult or high control group has specific ways of controlling people including but not limited to divorcing the new recruits from family or friends and shunning by the entire group to penalize those that attempt to leave the group. The leadership must be obeyed at all cost and in some cases this will involve premature death.

Just because there are people on this db who actually understand science and are willing to debate the facts does not make them part of a cult.

I have seen what cults have done first hand. The premature death, the child rape and the creed bigotry is painful to see and watch. Are you telling me that people who practice science or support scientific critical thinking on this db are doing the same? Maybe you should go read a few of Steve Hassan's books on high control groups.

12 posted on 10/16/2006 5:32:03 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Tribune7
It appears the Religion Of Evolution has a few skeptics in Europe.

There might be hope for them yet.

15 posted on 10/16/2006 5:43:32 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: wbmstr24

Incredible

The geological column could have been laid down in months, not millions of years.

What is it that makes so many willing to ignore the obvious?

We do not need to disprove evolution to cause God to exist.

wow


16 posted on 10/16/2006 5:45:39 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: Tribune7

Enough of these false religious theories like evolution. Something needs to change. We need to go back to using leeches instead of those so-called anti-biotics. The atheists would have us believe leeches have no value when we all know God gave us leeches to be a natural cure. Similarly, there was nothing ever wrong with blood-letting. It always worked quite well.


18 posted on 10/16/2006 6:00:23 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: Tribune7

"Professor Giertych introduced the subject by relating how his children had returned home from school having been taught about the theory of evolution. They were told that the proof of macroevolution - the common ancestry of biological life - was to be found in the science of genetics. This was news to Professor Giertych who had spent his life working at the highest level of genetic research. He revealed to the meeting that such proof does not exist in genetics, only disproof."
Amen, good observation on his part.


19 posted on 10/16/2006 6:01:31 AM PDT by Chewie84
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To: jbp1
The geological column could have been laid down in months, not millions of years.

How, exactly, could this have happened?
20 posted on 10/16/2006 6:13:53 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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