[S.S. Monkeyface]

There are some scenarios that should be explored to change the way the war is being conducted in Iraq. It makes little sense to keep going down the road that we're going when it leads nowhere.

To achieve victory, first you must seek it. Are we seekign victory or are we usign the LBJ-McNamara strategy?

[Kirkwood]

"To achieve victory, first you must seek it. Are we seekign victory or are we usign the LBJ-McNamara strategy?"

It is not the LBJ scenario where everything is being run from the top down. Not at all the same. However, it needs to be fought on our terms with strategic goals and not just a series of tactical responses alone. If there is a strategic plan, it is not obvious. From the outside it looks like the conflict has not appreciably changed in the last 12 months. Nor should the political climate in Iraq solely determine our response. There is too much emphasis on trying to contain the situation and keep the Iraqi leadership happy and not enough on simply killing insurgents in huge numbers and plugging the border leaks. Our military should be a killing machine and not a military police force.