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CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 10/17/06 | Ray Haynes

Posted on 10/17/2006 3:41:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Mr. Jeeves
Excellent questions. A neutral journalist could win a Pulitzer Prize for answering them.

Aren't journalists supposed to ask the questions?

41 posted on 10/19/2006 6:39:45 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Spending public money.
To defeat a proposition to limit government excess.
Paid to an increasingly failing MSM.
Thereby helping keep MSM afloat.
Which neverendingly promotes the spending public money.

Sounds like a perpetual cycle.

Antidisestablishmentarianism.


42 posted on 10/19/2006 8:50:26 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: absalom01

There is a great article on my bookmarks page about Red China documenting how much easier it is to start a business there than in the United States.


43 posted on 10/20/2006 3:40:42 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: La Enchiladita

The Conservancy has established control over some relatively small parcels in the San Gabriels immediately above La Canada, adjacent to the Angeles National Forest, and in the Verdugos. They have been the prime movers behind the "Rim of the Valley Corridor", which, if implemented, would give them effective control of all undeveloped land in the Verdugs, the San Rafaels, and portions of La Tuna Canyon.

Prop. 90 would drive this particular group of proto-totalitarians nuts.


44 posted on 10/20/2006 10:31:00 AM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: absalom01; DoughtyOne
Thank you. I did not know that, and now I am more motivated than ever to vote YES on Prop. 90, which I planned to do anyway.

D1, see post #44.

45 posted on 10/20/2006 10:40:38 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: La Enchiladita

Thanks for the note. I appreciate it.


How do you like this attempt to make it look like the Santa Monica Conservency is part of the government of the State of California?

http://smmc.ca.gov/

Check out the map on this site. In truth, I don't think the map shows all their land, but it's a good start.

http://www.lamountains.com/parks_search.asp


46 posted on 10/20/2006 4:17:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: La Enchiladita

The federal and state lands angle is important here. I don't know what the actual status of these lands is. Is the federal government granting these lands to the consevancies? Is it granting them the funds to purchase these and or other land tracts? Is it merely using these NGOs to manage public lands?

It's amazing how many land conservancies there are out there.


47 posted on 10/21/2006 12:51:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hey, D1. I read your previous post yesterday but was too stunned to think of a reply! I had no idea of all the territory that has been acquired by the SM Conservancy, either as ownership or management.

I first became aware of them when they became owners of Solstice Canyon, one of my favorite places to hike, especially in May when the yucca are in bloom. It's a lovely, lovely place.

But, as I said, I tuned out since then -- @ 10 years ago -- as to their activities, although I believe they had something to do with Streisand's transfer of her Malibu lands.

Yes, it is not clear how much land they OWN and how much they "MANAGE." And who is the owner of the lands they manage?

I've known of The Nature Conservancy for 20 years. They have purview of a LOT of land in Arizona, and quite a bit in CA, including the Anza-Borrego wilderness.

Conservation groups protect bighorn sheep habitat near Anza-Borrego Desert State Park

The Anza-Borrego Foundation purchased the land from a private seller for $221,000 with The Nature Conservancy providing $100,000 in grant funds. The Foundation plans to convey the property to California State Parks for incorporation into the 600,000-acre park.

So, what does "convey" mean?

48 posted on 10/21/2006 11:58:03 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks to my Assemblyman...


49 posted on 10/21/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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