[Sir Francis Dashwood]

A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a faux Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it.

Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice - - they replace the idea of "avoiding sin" with "morals."

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.

Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

[antiRepublicrat]

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.

Or a civilization devises a system of morals and then invents a higher power to give them enforcement.

Try a simple logical exercise: If God said murder is okay, would you agree that it is okay? If no, then is murder wrong because God said it's wrong, or is murder simply wrong?

For another example, slavery was allowed under God's word (the Bible) and existed for a very long time in Christian societies. Today it is not acceptable in Christian societies. God's word -- and his morals regarding slavery -- remained the same, but the society evolved and decided that slavery was no longer moral despite God's word.

[RedStateRocker]

Personal opinion: MOST of the professed Christians have been marginal, or non believers. Probably throughout history. Sheer fear of condemnation, peer pressure and perhaps the belief that religious morality is good for society even if based on nothing other than delusion have led them to supporting churches, attending, professing. With the greater acceptance of alternatives to mainstream Judeo/Christian practice - atheism, Wicca, and othe occult - we are seeing in an overt form what has probably existed since shortly after Peter preached, or at least since the time of Constantine.

One of the most rock-ribbed, upright, 'moral' staunch conservatives I know does NOT believe, but he strongly supports his church, the Republican candidates nationally and in his area and to ALL external appearances is the very model of what a good conservative Republican should be. Because, being an entrepreneur he worships only what WORKS, and the Judeo-Christian, capitalist American style constitutional republic is the most productive and effective system of economic and political liberty creation and preservation ever known (paraphrasing him)

[steve-b]

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.

Nonsense. Morality is derived from observation and analysis of how to keep the peace within human societies.

[stands2reason]

Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization.

:-)

Aren't you an atheist?

[jennyp]

Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

Alan Sokal redux.