Posted on 10/19/2006 8:12:15 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
Of course, they are GOOD, VERY GOOD.
Their "War Room" made up of the entire MSM,Hollywood,Academia and the Judiciary, are pitch perfect in planning and execution.
Of course with 40 years of practice, and an idiot public, it has been easy.
You will not bother to vote.
Democrats will win.
You will not bother to vote.
It is futile.
You will not bother to vote.
Forget you have seen this message
... now back to Katie.
The Foley B.S. further motivated many of us, it was just too obvious...timing, over-hype, yet another "bigger than Watergate" scandal, etc.
Does anyone know if our best Senator here in AZ, Kyl, really is "in jeopardy" as recent reports and polls say? I find that every hard to believe, but they sure have poured a lot of $$ into this state to take him out.
Just look at what Gore tried in 2000, and Kerry in 2004 (not to mention the ongoing travails of that Mexican clown.) To a democrat, if the polls predict victory and the election results show that you lost, clearly the results, not the polls, are in error. In other words, if my favorite NFL team is a ten-point favorite and they lose, the game was, by definition, fixed.
Actually, one of the main purposes of the propaganda is to provide cover for the vote fraud that the Democrats expect to get away with. If everyone expects the Democrats to win, there will be no reason to be suspicious of the results.
The great thing Rob, is that even though it has been widely known for decades by those on sites like FR that the MSM spins each election cycle to favor the dems, now they have been so sloppy that the average voter is starting to recognize it.
"Be thankful for talk radio, Rush Limbaugh in particular, and more than anything, for the Internet. There are still lots of sheeple out there, but there are also a lot of people who feel just as you do."
I haven't listened to Hannity, but, I've heard he's pounding on this on his radio show, too. Mark Levin has been really pounding this for the last week or so. We just started getting his show about a month ago out here.
570 KVI. He's on from 6-8 Pacific time and the station has live streaming in case anyone wants to listen and his show isn't available in your area
There is a strategy to the trickling factor in all these news reports. Expect further "outings" of gay Republican staffers and politicians as well.
The point is to keep these "anti-values" stories coming continuously until election day in the hopes that the base of the Republican party will stay home or vote third party. We have not seen the last. Sadly, many FReepers are buying into it and playing right into the dems ploys.
Well, yes.
"outright lie and distort.....in order to manipulate the election..."
that they do. they know how to lie very well. it is their business to lie.
they love power. they do not attempt to convert opponents. they destroy them. if they have absolute power, people disappear. if they exist in a free county, they do what they can to manipulate opinion and destroy reputations and lives. they're smug, self-satisfied and irresponsible. they are attempting to gain the biggest lie of all.....that they are the saviours of mankind.
if they succeed,it's time to head for the hills. literally.
Yes.
It's interesting when I speak to not particularly activist conservatives in my area. There are many folks in my area who usually vote R, but occasionally vote for a couple of local Ds. What I am hearing is that this year the Democrats are fighting so dirty with this whole Foley thing and with the anti-Iraq attitude, they've decided to vote a straight R ticket. It's always said in a somewhat conspiratorial whisper.
Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but to some degree illustrates utter disgust with the behavior of the democrats.
In the for what it's worth category.
Question for you Rob; have you ever voted for someone based on what a poll said?
Best way to curb your anger:
Find your republican area leader and volunteer to work a poll.
For fun and frivolity, work a poll outside your own.
If you are not afraid of close encounters of the physical kind, pick a poll in the heart of Ratzland, you know, one of those polls where only union thugs and NAACP types hang out. Be for Rick, be loud, hand out literature, and if someone hits you, roll on the ground till the EMS comes.
Press charges!!
Election day is sooo much fun!!
Excellent point in (3) that I hadn't considered.
This has been going on for quite a while now....they skew the news, and when the election results are in and actually reflect what was going on in people's heads when their attempt to influence doesn't pan out, they scream voter fraud.
No, and I hope that I'm not an anomaly.
I have to agree with you Rob , I live in the area between Hershey and Harrisburg and I find it hard to believe that they will vote for Casey.
I'm voting this fall. Even if I have to beat my way through a line of liberals. In fact, that actually sounds like fun... ;-)
From:
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/
October 18, 2006, 9:36 AM entry
A caller yesterday asked "So what? Won't polls showing GOP candidates behind energize Republican voters to turn out?"
Hardly. I asked him whether season ticket holders to the Raiders or Broncos were more likely to be showing up to games in December. That clarified the issue quickly. Voters, like fans, don't show up in the same numbers for lost causes, which is why lousy models do in fact produce polls that depress turnout.
Now here's my question: When, in the last two cycles of 2002 and 2004, has any national poll of standing shown a Republican to be ahead at this point in the race where that Republican in fact lost? (You can't cite Zogby for this proposition, as the poll must generally be recognized as having at least a shred of credibility.) While poll after poll over these years have shown Democrats ahead who in fact lost, can you recall a race where polling put a GOP candidate ahead who in fact got smacked badly on election day?
Oct. 18, 6:01PM entry
UPDATE: An e-mail on the polls:
Thank you so much for bringing attention on the all the faulty polling being done. You are not crazy, you are absolutely, 100% spot-on on this. I have worked my entire adult life, 25 years, processing market research and public opinion surveys. I know enough about surveys to be able to construct one that shows people prefer Pepsi over Coke, 60%-40%, or vice versa, and you would have no idea how I got either result even if I gave you the internals and methodology. You dont have to take it on faith that there is a media conspiracy to misrepresent polling, they admit it in their own poll results. I have yet to see a general population poll that did not show adults 2%-4% more liberal than registered voters and registered voters 2%-4% more liberal than likely voters, and yet the media has no qualms about citing adults or registered voters when they want to give the Dems an added boost. Likewise, most 7 day tracking studies show a liberal 2%-4% bias when collecting over the weekend, yet the weekend seems to be the favorite time to poll. But the most important flaw is the one you have been talking about, the fact that every poll seems to over sample Democrats by 5%-10% consistently.
The proof of their inaccuracy is, as you state, in the exit polls. They are taken of a sample of actual voters, and can be verified against the actual voting results. The party affiliation was even in 2004, and +2% for the Republicans in 2002, and this seems pretty correct considering the election results (though given the vote counts it may still undercount Republicans by 1% or 2%).
The common error is to assume that their rigorous random sampling methodology truly gives them a representative sample of voters. By reviewing the accuracy of their predictions, it is obvious that, for a variety of reasons, the likely voters they talk to in October contain more Democrats than actually cast a vote in November. My theory on this is that Republicans are serious adult citizens, Democrats and Independents are not. Republicans by and large take their citizenship seriously, inform themselves and vote accordingly. The rest of the population doesnt even register to vote, or only vote when they are sufficiently ginned up, or when they are herded on buses to the polls. They base their opinions on chanted slogans or newspaper headlines, and take their responsibility to vote about as serious as all their other responsibilities as citizens.
Come November 7, I am confident (as is Karl Rove) that more serious adults will show up at the polls than Democrats. All our election experience tells us that 2006 will be a status quo election, a small number of seats gained in the House by the Democrats, and a small number of seats gained in the Senate by the Republicans. The ONLY evidence offered of this Blue Wave that will supposedly change the course of history are these aforementioned polls, which we KNOW are faulty and biased.
Plan A - Try to suppress the conservative vote by printing non-stop anti-Republican stories and bogus poll numbers.
Plan B - If Plan A doesn't work sceam that all the polls just couldn't have been wrong so the Republicans just had to have cheated. This is also known as the Diebold Plan.
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