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University Bans Humor Quotation From Student's Door
CNSnews.com ^ | 10/19/06 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 10/19/2006 10:05:37 AM PDT by Froufrou

Officials at Marquette University have ordered a Ph.D. student to remove a quotation critical of the federal government from his office door, because the hallway the door faces is not a "free speech zone."

In August, Stuart Distler, a doctoral student teacher, posted a quotation from humor columnist Dave Barry on his office door. "As Americans, we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful and relentless," the sign stated. "I refer, of course, to the federal government."

On Sept. 5, Philosophy Department Chairman James South informed Distler via email that the sign had been taken down because it was "patently offensive."

"While I'm a strong supporter of academic freedom," South wrote, "I'm afraid that hallways and office doors are not 'free-speech zones.' If material is patently offensive and has no obvious academic import or university sanction, I have little choice but to take note."

When asked to comment on academic freedom at the university, South told Cybercast News Service he had "no interest in pursuing that conversation, but I do appreciate your interest."

South directed further questions to university spokeswoman Mary Pat Pfeil, who did not respond to requests for comment via telephone and email Wednesday.

According to the university policy South quoted in his email to Distler, student teachers are allowed to participate in free speech "when he/she speaks or writes as a citizen," but when speaking or writing as a teacher, the university "imposes special obligations."

While student teachers are "entitled to freedom in the classroom in discussing his/her subject," they are required to "exercise appropriate restraint, should show respect for the opinions of others and should make every effort to indicate that he/she is not an institutional spokesperson."

"This incident at Marquette is part of a truly disturbing trend," Greg Lukianoff, president of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), said in a release.

"Administrators seem willing to ban speech across the board and to designate increasingly tiny 'free speech zones' rather than risk any student or faculty member being offended," Lukianoff said.

Referring to the quotation as a "harmless joke," Lukianoff said the controversy at Marquette illustrates "how even innocuous expression is under ongoing assault at our colleges and universities."


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To: Froufrou

The most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Ronald Reagan


61 posted on 10/19/2006 11:27:34 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: HamiltonJay

To a degree, this is true, but colleges shouldn't be in the business of favoring certain opinions over others. It strikes at the heart of their avowed mission.

I'm surprised the Jesuits didn't step in and tell the chairman of this department to pipe down.


62 posted on 10/19/2006 11:29:38 AM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: eyedigress

Thanks for reminding me; he had a great sense of humor, too.


63 posted on 10/19/2006 11:34:21 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Loyolas Mattman

A college dorm is but a scaled-down version of life under a totalitarian regime...
__________

Man, your college experience was nothing like mine.


64 posted on 10/19/2006 11:43:34 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Redmen4ever

" they should be made to refund the tuition and the donations of those whom they've attempted to defraud by publishing their so-called commitment to academic freedom. "

Well stated!


65 posted on 10/19/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I once had an apartment manager take down a sign on the outside of my door that faced an interior hallway and put the sign on the floor. Thinking it fell off, I reapplied it. Found it on the floor again. So I called the manager and asked what was going on. Another tenant had complained about it and the managers (Mormons) said I had to keep the sign off my door or move out.

The offensive wording?

"He died for me, therefore I will live for Him."

I was furious, had never heard of such a thing; it wasn't addressed in the rental agreement. But they wouldn't budge. I seriously wondered if they really had the right to squelch free speech; to me it's the same thing as taking down a "Merry Christmas" sign or a Christmas wreath on your door, all activities the managers indulged in.


66 posted on 10/19/2006 11:49:12 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: 50sDad
You remember when the Founders added the "zone" clause, limiting the First Amendment, right?

Marquette University is a private university, therefor they get to set the rules on THEIR PRIVATE property. I have no problem with that.
67 posted on 10/19/2006 11:51:00 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: GretchenM

You're a better Christian and more lady than I am! I'd have demanded to know HOW that could possibly offend. And I will continue to pray daily that I may live "for" Him!

Bless You!


68 posted on 10/19/2006 11:51:55 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

"I'm afraid that hallways and office doors are not 'free-speech zones.'"

That's true, you have to keep your beliefs private so that you're not run out of the university by left-wing totalitarians.


69 posted on 10/19/2006 11:52:35 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Billthedrill

"Free speech zone"? What, do they put up signs or something?"

For fans of irony, the left-wing university Nazis started out in the early 1960's as the Berkeley "Free Speech Movement".


70 posted on 10/19/2006 11:55:54 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: 50sDad
Dave MUST have an email address, somewhere, right? Is he still doing fresh stuff? This deserves attention.

I am sure Berry will roast this nut ball University way past well-done (all in humor of course) in a future column. I look forward to it.

71 posted on 10/19/2006 12:01:13 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Froufrou

In America we have "zones" for free speech?


72 posted on 10/19/2006 12:11:20 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Froufrou

I was not physically or financially in a position to move at the time, or check with an attorney, so I couldn't force the issue. The manager guy was a former cop who seemed to have a reservoir of undiluted anger in him, and his wife was a bulldozer. They ran the place with an iron fist and I was very ill at the time.

I am almost certain the complainer was the old woman whose bedroom wall was contiguous to mine. She was a CASE. I am sure she wasn't mentally balanced. She regularly woke me up at 2 AM because she was ramming her closet door the full length of its runner, into my wall. Throughout the night I'd hear her in her room (waking me up) yelling at people who weren't there.

The apartment had a laundry room across the hall from me, with strict instructions not to start laundry before 9 AM. One weekend morning right at 9 AM, I started the washing machine, turned to go, and about had an accident when I found her blocking the door, as menacing as a Nazi SS guard. I can't adequately describe the evil coming out of her. She demanded to know why I was breaking the rules. I asked what rules. She said I couldn't wash my clothes. I said it was nine AM and waited for her to stop blocking the doorway; in my mind, the conversation was OVER.

She hated children and tried to get me evicted because I had a child. When I finally did move, several other tenants, nodding acquaintances, approached me in the hall and said how sad they were that we were moving. Every one of them said if they hadn't seen my son with their own eyes, they'd never have known a child lived near them, and commented on how polite and friendly he always was to them, respectful. Yet the managers did threaten to evict me on account of my having a son, even though I had stated it in the rental agreement. I don't know why they kowtowed to the old lady and bullied me. It really put me off apartment living, and reinforced every prejudice I had formed against it.


73 posted on 10/19/2006 12:11:42 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Froufrou

Only a true liberal would declare criticism of the federal government "patently offensive".


74 posted on 10/19/2006 12:37:49 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Kozak
Marquette University is a private university, therefor they get to set the rules on THEIR PRIVATE property. I have no problem with that.

Very well. However, just as the other guys never stop yacking about what offends them, I'm going to speak up in the marketplace of free ideas as to what I think is bonehead behavior. If they are right in crushing free speech in what is supposed to be an educational forum to weigh one idea against another, then they should have no problem with everyone knowing what they do. And once all the parents who pay the bills have all been notified that the management thinks political opinion has no place on campus, well, I have no problem with that.

75 posted on 10/19/2006 1:00:29 PM PDT by 50sDad (The GOP dumped Foley, the Dems kept Clinton. See the difference?)
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To: 50sDad

Have to disagree. In an ideal world I would agree, but we live in a world far from ideal. Marquette has to set some kind of rules. Knowing the liberal asshats that infest every university, EVERY hall and door would be an endless political hate fest. You can rest assured that NO conservative speech would be protected.

I've walked the halls at my sons private college and I get nauseated. An endless bash America and Republicans festival. You should go for a walk on any campus and take a look. The LAST thing going on is "a marketplace of free ideas".


76 posted on 10/19/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Loyolas Mattman

A professor is an employee, period. Yes universities like to think they are liberated, etc.. but you are an employee.. you don't have defacto free speach on the job. Tell your boss what a jerk he is, and see how long you have a job.

You are not guaranteed employment.. you obey your boss on the job or get fired. This isn't even a debatable issue.. guys got the sign on his office, which belongs to the university and is part of his work environment... he has no inalienable right to do anything there other than what his boss allows.


77 posted on 10/19/2006 2:51:41 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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