[Rummyfan]

MS: Yes, and I think it’s simply a mistake to argue about whether a war is a mistake. Once you’re in it, I think the best thing to do is to win it.

Are you listening Jonah you birk? And other conservatives who want to bail? The die is cast - we must win!

[outdriving]

I agree, Rummyfan, but how?

Rummy's plan ain't working too well, is it?

Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result?

We have two choices here. Take off the kid gloves and make the population more afraid of us than the enemy, or get the hell out.

I just can't see the current course accomplishing our goals. If you can please explain.