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To: Thumper1960
Not very polite, are you?

France only got its fist non-European extraction news anchor on a big network recently, although an estimated ten percent of the population is Muslim, so the amount who are simply of non-European extraction is probably higher. In contrast, almost all of the big American networks have such an anchor, even if that person is a second-string one.

Also, the topic is France, not the United States. There are a lot of European-descended racists here. There are also racists of Asian, African, and Latino descent, too. What's your point besides lashing out at what you perceive as undeserved criticism toward a group with which you identify?

And exactly how many neighborhoods and Jew-stores have been burned and ransacked, and for the latter, wouldn't the Klan do the same? The United States has had some violence based upon Islam (notably 9/11). However, the French riots are based on racism, not Islam. Not everything which has a Muslim as a perpetrator links directly to Islam. Sometimes most of the blame is on the other side.

45 posted on 10/21/2006 9:27:23 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The r/l thing is Japanese, not pan-Asian, and, in any case, making a mockery of it is rude.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

I don't buy the argument that this is all about racism. That's an element, but these people are concentrated in the suburbs in large apartment towers. With 40 per cent unemployment (or worse) among them, they are concentrated by economic means or "class" as much as by any other criteria. Blame also has to be placed on a social system that doesn't allow employees to be fired for incompetence, even in the first year. Chirac even tried to push through tort reform to remedy this situation, unsuccessfully. Employers have to be careful about who they hire in France, considering it's harder to fire worthless employees that it is here in the states to fire underperforming civil service employees.

Saying everything is traced to "racism" is the underlying justification for state-sponsored affirmative action, "level-the-playing-field" laws enforcing discrimination, and reverse discrimination. All in the name of "diversity" and equality, of course.

If racism were the biggest underlying factor at work here, why is it the parents of these hoodlums integrated into French society much easier than their offspring?


52 posted on 10/21/2006 9:50:55 PM PDT by zipper
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
No. I'm not. Is that a problem? Would my being polite make anyone feel better?

As for the French Problem, if the poor, put upon Arab/Muslim/Minority/(insert favorite discriminated against entity here) have it so bad in France, there are modes of transportation out of France. Just as there were modes for them to arrive there. Why anyone would want to live in France with the French infesting France, I'll never understand. But, that's a seperate issue.

Now, if your argument is that the riots previous, and recent incidents, in France were justified by some perceived racist policies practiced by the French, that's fine. You're entitled to be wrong. The poor yutes haven't changed the French system by participating in its political arena. They seem not to have assimilated. They just seem to use the outraged Arab/Muslim/Minority/(Insert etc.) tactics of slash, burn, destroy, my gods bigger than your god, on and on.......

As for Jews being the victims of Muslim anger.....well, the road to paradise is littered with innumerable Jews whom Muslims have used to make their way to those virgins. (Yes, NAZI's, KKKer's and assorted other lunatics have also killed Jews)

53 posted on 10/21/2006 9:52:11 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Kind of ironic that in the French socialist state, the proletariat -- many who are Muslim and Moroccan -- is rising up due to racism and economics (the underclass doing the crap jobs.) Being Muslim just adds more fuel to the flame.
63 posted on 10/22/2006 12:45:53 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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