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Bradenton (FL) Police Department bypassing courts in forfeitures
Herald Tribune ^
| October 22. 2006
| MICHAEL A. SCARCELLA and ANTHONY CORMIER
Posted on 10/22/2006 1:16:21 PM PDT by ellery
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:16:23 PM PDT
by
ellery
To: ellery
... They went all up in my pockets ...Wow!
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:37:15 PM PDT
by
relee
To: elkfersupper
Coming to a traffic stop near you soon.
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:43:08 PM PDT
by
razorback-bert
(I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
To: ellery
I see Vic Mackey's fingerprints on this!
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:43:55 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: ellery
It would seem that the solution is a law that doesn't allow law enforcement to profit in any way from anything siezed, NOR from things like traffic ticket money. Give them a budget, period. There is just too big of a confict of interest if they can put money into their own dept.
susie
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT
by
brytlea
(amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
To: ellery
When robbed was done by the kings men they were called called highwaymen. What is the modern term for robbery by the police? Using force and guns they are committing armed robbery.
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:45:34 PM PDT
by
YOUGOTIT
To: brytlea
I agree -- law enforcement should focus on public safety, not revenue generation.
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posted on
10/22/2006 1:49:25 PM PDT
by
ellery
(The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
To: ellery
Dreaming.
What is most road patrol other then revenue enhancement?
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:12:32 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(an enemy of islam)
To: Joe Boucher
AKA value-added profit incentives.
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:17:26 PM PDT
by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
To: Liberty Valance
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:29:00 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(an enemy of islam)
To: ellery
That doesn't sound real enforceable...
The police bypass the courts and confiscate money and property on the spot through a department-created form called the "Contraband Forfeiture Agreement." By signing it, a person agrees to relinquish their property to the police and waive any rights they have to try to get it back through the courts.
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT
by
Ready4Freddy
("Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.")
To: ellery
The abuse of forfeiture laws is widespread and well documented. What was intended to take illegal profits from drug king-pins has been turned against the common citizen and made into a revenue generator.
Of course, police will protest any suggestion of ending the practice. They've gotten used to their new method of funding, and won't give it up without a court fight.
"Larceny under color of law" would be the appropriate legal phrase.
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:41:52 PM PDT
by
etcetera
(‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
To: sit-rep
To: ellery
Radzilowski defends the practice, saying a person has a right to decide how to dispose of their property.A right to decide with, literally, a gun to their head. This is nothing less than robbery.
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posted on
10/22/2006 2:56:09 PM PDT
by
CGTRWK
To: ellery
Remember that the dollar amounts are what is REPORTED.
Am I saying that the police are corrupt?
What else can you say when the local police department creates an administrative procedure that is, IMHO, in clear violation of the Constitution of the US and then dares anyone to come and get their money back?
The people or persons who wrote this administrative procedure and who signed off on it must be identified, jailed for civil rights violations, and punished . Any law enforcement officer or officer of the court system who knew of this activity and failed to report it must forfeit their jobs immediately.
Over reaction? Read your histories of Europe, Russia in the later 1910s and Germany in the early 1930s where administrative procedures lead to
and remember there is no biological/mental difference between them and us.
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT
by
Nip
(SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)
To: ellery; Nip; CGTRWK; Larry Lucido; etcetera; Ready4Freddy; Joe Boucher; YOUGOTIT; razorback-bert
I think this case is ripe for a Federal criminal investigation and civil rights suit for violation of rights under color of authority.
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:34:40 PM PDT
by
Enterprise
(Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
To: ellery
"People involved in crime are more apt to walk away from the money," the chief said. "We're not looking to take money from innocent people. We're only trying to take the make a profit out of the narcotics business." There. Probably more accurate.
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:36:25 PM PDT
by
Enterprise
(Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
To: Larry Lucido
I read it at my place and commented. It is total BS. But, like the majority of todays government abuses, nothing will result, no government employees will be charged.
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:41:09 PM PDT
by
sit-rep
( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
To: ellery
I'll bet these forfeiture "victims" are all stupid druggies and pushers
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:49:05 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("What one man can do, another can do")
To: Nip
The incentive structure is poisonous. When they catch a dealer with cash, the incentive is to seize the cash, and let the dealer go, in hopes of shaking him down again in the future.
Plus, as the practice becomes common, there is temptation to just pocket the money and not report it.
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posted on
10/22/2006 3:51:32 PM PDT
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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