Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bradenton (FL) Police Department bypassing courts in forfeitures
Herald Tribune ^ | October 22. 2006 | MICHAEL A. SCARCELLA and ANTHONY CORMIER

Posted on 10/22/2006 1:16:21 PM PDT by ellery

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

1 posted on 10/22/2006 1:16:23 PM PDT by ellery
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: ellery
... They went all up in my pockets ...

Wow!

2 posted on 10/22/2006 1:37:15 PM PDT by relee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: elkfersupper

Coming to a traffic stop near you soon.


3 posted on 10/22/2006 1:43:08 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery

I see Vic Mackey's fingerprints on this!


4 posted on 10/22/2006 1:43:55 PM PDT by Hildy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery

It would seem that the solution is a law that doesn't allow law enforcement to profit in any way from anything siezed, NOR from things like traffic ticket money. Give them a budget, period. There is just too big of a confict of interest if they can put money into their own dept.
susie


5 posted on 10/22/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery

When robbed was done by the kings men they were called called highwaymen. What is the modern term for robbery by the police? Using force and guns they are committing armed robbery.



6 posted on 10/22/2006 1:45:34 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: brytlea

I agree -- law enforcement should focus on public safety, not revenue generation.


7 posted on 10/22/2006 1:49:25 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ellery

Dreaming.
What is most road patrol other then revenue enhancement?


8 posted on 10/22/2006 2:12:32 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Joe Boucher

AKA value-added profit incentives.


9 posted on 10/22/2006 2:17:26 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Liberty Valance

Quotas?


10 posted on 10/22/2006 2:29:00 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ellery
That doesn't sound real enforceable...

The police bypass the courts and confiscate money and property on the spot through a department-created form called the "Contraband Forfeiture Agreement." By signing it, a person agrees to relinquish their property to the police and waive any rights they have to try to get it back through the courts.

11 posted on 10/22/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery
The abuse of forfeiture laws is widespread and well documented. What was intended to take illegal profits from drug king-pins has been turned against the common citizen and made into a revenue generator.

Of course, police will protest any suggestion of ending the practice. They've gotten used to their new method of funding, and won't give it up without a court fight.

"Larceny under color of law" would be the appropriate legal phrase.

12 posted on 10/22/2006 2:41:52 PM PDT by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sit-rep

Check out this sh!t.


13 posted on 10/22/2006 2:50:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery
Radzilowski defends the practice, saying a person has a right to decide how to dispose of their property.

A right to decide with, literally, a gun to their head. This is nothing less than robbery.

14 posted on 10/22/2006 2:56:09 PM PDT by CGTRWK
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery

Remember that the dollar amounts are what is REPORTED.

Am I saying that the police are corrupt?

What else can you say when the local police department creates an administrative procedure that is, IMHO, in clear violation of the Constitution of the US and then dares anyone to come and get their money back?

The people or persons who wrote this administrative procedure and who signed off on it must be identified, jailed for civil rights violations, and punished . Any law enforcement officer or officer of the court system who knew of this activity and failed to report it must forfeit their jobs immediately.

Over reaction? Read your histories of Europe, Russia in the later 1910’s and Germany in the early 1930’s where administrative procedures lead to …… and remember there is no biological/mental difference between them and us.


15 posted on 10/22/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT by Nip (SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery; Nip; CGTRWK; Larry Lucido; etcetera; Ready4Freddy; Joe Boucher; YOUGOTIT; razorback-bert

I think this case is ripe for a Federal criminal investigation and civil rights suit for violation of rights under color of authority.


16 posted on 10/22/2006 3:34:40 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ellery
"People involved in crime are more apt to walk away from the money," the chief said. "We're not looking to take money from innocent people. We're only trying to take the make a profit out of the narcotics business."

There. Probably more accurate.

17 posted on 10/22/2006 3:36:25 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Larry Lucido

I read it at my place and commented. It is total BS. But, like the majority of todays government abuses, nothing will result, no government employees will be charged.


18 posted on 10/22/2006 3:41:09 PM PDT by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: ellery

I'll bet these forfeiture "victims" are all stupid druggies and pushers


19 posted on 10/22/2006 3:49:05 PM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nip
The incentive structure is poisonous. When they catch a dealer with cash, the incentive is to seize the cash, and let the dealer go, in hopes of shaking him down again in the future.

Plus, as the practice becomes common, there is temptation to just pocket the money and not report it.

20 posted on 10/22/2006 3:51:32 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-28 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson