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Boeing 747 Large Cargo Freighter Successfully Tests Swing Tail
Boeing.com ^ | Oct. 23, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 10/24/2006 9:42:44 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

EVERETT, Wash, Oct. 23, 2006 -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) opened and closed the swing tail for the 747-400 Large Cargo Freighter for the first time Oct. 10. The 747 LCF is currently at the Boeing Everett factory for tests on the swing tail, a major modification to the airplane that allows large pieces to be loaded and unloaded from the back of the airplane. These tests are the first time the LCF swing tail has opened.

Since its first flight, the 747 LCF has accomplished 55 flight-test hours and 270 hours of ground tests. The 747 LCF will transport major components of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 747; 787; boeing; lcf

1 posted on 10/24/2006 9:42:44 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


2 posted on 10/24/2006 9:43:39 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Very cool. The ring of locks on that is pretty impressive.


3 posted on 10/24/2006 9:44:12 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Paleo Conservative
Hubba Hubba!

(Groans at Airbust ...)

4 posted on 10/24/2006 9:46:01 AM PDT by Babu
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To: Paleo Conservative

An absolutely amazing aircraft! My hat's off to those Boeing engineers.


5 posted on 10/24/2006 9:46:34 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (PC joke of the year: Three non denominational men walk into a fermented beverage distribution unit,)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Saw this bad boy take off the other day.


6 posted on 10/24/2006 9:46:53 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Paleo Conservative

Goodbye Airbus bttt


7 posted on 10/24/2006 9:48:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Damn straight! Don't want that sucker coming open while in flight.
8 posted on 10/24/2006 9:50:03 AM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Should make for some pretty quick left turns at Albuquerque.


9 posted on 10/24/2006 9:59:30 AM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Paleo Conservative
But will it hold up to a langing like this? :-)
10 posted on 10/24/2006 10:00:26 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The Froggies at Airbust are very sad. Thanks for the ping.


11 posted on 10/24/2006 10:07:44 AM PDT by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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To: Paleo Conservative

How do you air drop from that thing???


12 posted on 10/24/2006 10:09:11 AM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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To: Paleo Conservative
These tests are the first time the LCF swing tail has opened.

I have a hard time believing that line. This might have been the first time it has opened after a flight, but it can't be the very first time it opened.

Writers these days!

13 posted on 10/24/2006 10:11:43 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: null and void
How do you air drop from that thing???

Once?

14 posted on 10/24/2006 10:12:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Waverunner

15 posted on 10/24/2006 10:14:31 AM PDT by null and void (Age and experience -- It makes no sense to get one without the other. - Sundog)
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To: null and void

They make an extremely sharp left turn.


16 posted on 10/24/2006 10:16:07 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"The ring of locks on that is pretty impressive."

Is there a technical term for the locks?

If not I have dibs on "lockeron". Get it? longeron-lock!

sigh..., I'm just a structures weeny. I don't get to come up with nifty things. My only joy is crushing a designers dreams with huge design loads.

enthusiastic designer approaches me with a bright shiny new design, grinning ear to ear

After a long pause I frown then say "You did design for the case in which an 85th percentile hippopotamus suddenly snaps into being midair in front of the aircraft while it's in a dive right?
smile starts slipping
Normally a 1.5 factor of safety would apply...

I look tentatively at designer

"But I hear where they've started conservation projects for hippos and their numbers have really increased.. Yep, you'll have to use a factor of safety of,... (I notice it's the 24th of the month) 2.4! Yes, definitely 2.4!

smile now gone, "You sure about 2.4? I've never heard of,"
Hey do I need to show you the MILSPEC??? I point to thirty foot tall stack of ordinary aerospace mags
now with a zombi-like dejected look "No, thank you for your help, I'll go crunch some numbers, or,... something.

I'm grinning ear-to-ear "No problem! Keep up the good work"

17 posted on 10/24/2006 10:17:59 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

You are a cruel man!


18 posted on 10/24/2006 10:20:27 AM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: pissant

I understand the physics of flight, but I still love to watch (and listen to) something as big as a 747 take off...


19 posted on 10/24/2006 10:22:51 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Wow!


20 posted on 10/24/2006 10:27:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: ErnBatavia

"I understand the physics of flight, but I still love to watch (and listen to) something as big as a 747 take off..."

My neighboors dont like me. I bought Flight Sim X over the weekend. I have a 1000 watt 14 inch subwoofer. Cranked that bad boy up and spent 2 hours doing take off and landings in a 747 over the weekend. On startup the pens and pencils in my pencil cup on my desk start to dance :)


21 posted on 10/24/2006 10:48:03 AM PDT by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: ErnBatavia

I got to see a Korean Air 747 blast off from Hartsfield-Jackson in Atlanta yesterday while I was sitting in C Concourse waiting to catch a flight up here to Richmond. 350+ tons of metal tearing into the sky with all that noise...it's mechanical poetry in motion.

Although somebody needs to tell KAL that nothing that big should be painted baby blue.

}:-)4


22 posted on 10/24/2006 10:50:59 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: Semper Vigilantis
An absolutely amazing aircraft! My hat's off to those Boeing engineers.

Shouldn't that read "My hat's off to those Boeing Russian engineers.

23 posted on 10/24/2006 11:05:24 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Paleo Conservative
Wonder what would happen if they made a double decker out of the thing with 850 seats?

Or at least one more row of seats than the Airboob A380?

24 posted on 10/24/2006 12:11:07 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Moose4
Although somebody needs to tell KAL that nothing that big should be painted baby blue.

What about KLM?


25 posted on 10/24/2006 12:39:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: N. Theknow
Wonder what would happen if they made a double decker out of the thing with 850 seats?

They'd all die from asphyxiation. The cargo compartment of the LCF is not pressurized.

26 posted on 10/24/2006 12:41:17 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

KLM's planes are only *half* baby blue. :) Actually that top blue is just a shade darker than the KAL planes, if I remember correctly.

}:-)4


27 posted on 10/24/2006 12:42:44 PM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: null and void
It's not a military cargo jet so the aircraft doesn't need to have that capability. If they did, it would be during the mother of all left turns.
28 posted on 10/24/2006 12:49:05 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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29 posted on 10/24/2006 1:06:52 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Moose4
350+ tons of metal tearing into the sky with all that noise...it's mechanical poetry in motion.

I like that. Nice imagery.

30 posted on 10/24/2006 1:06:58 PM PDT by phantomworker ("Whatever you do will not be enough, but it matters enormously that you do it." - Gandhi)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I think this is 787. The 747 integration is different.


31 posted on 10/24/2006 1:10:58 PM PDT by phantomworker ("Whatever you do will not be enough, but it matters enormously that you do it." - Gandhi)
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To: phantomworker

It is the 787, but these are the pieces that will be transported by the 747LCF.


32 posted on 10/24/2006 1:13:18 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: null and void; Yo-Yo; patton; sionnsar
How do you air drop from that thing???

Well, the paratroopers wouldn't have a problem coming out in a hurry, once the "tail door" comes open.

The pilot, on the other hand, .....

33 posted on 10/24/2006 1:16:33 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
They'd all die from asphyxiation. The cargo compartment of the LCF is not pressurized. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It can't be "made" in a passenger version?

Wonder if water cooler chit chat at Boeing has opined that it could cause an Airboob corporate, rectal vapor lock en masse if they said they were studying the feasibility of doing it.

34 posted on 10/24/2006 2:24:26 PM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: N. Theknow
... water cooler chit chat...

I think it's all bottled water now. ;) Not sure of that particular model, but there are 747 combi's.

35 posted on 10/24/2006 2:57:51 PM PDT by phantomworker ("Whatever you do will not be enough, but it matters enormously that you do it." - Gandhi)
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To: N. Theknow
It can't be "made" in a passenger version?

It costs too much, and the modification didn't increase the maximum takeoff weight. These modified 747's are being converted in small quantities and are not being built with mass production methods. You'd want a passenger jet to be more aerodynamically efficient. The extra large fuselage has more drag.

36 posted on 10/24/2006 3:16:34 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Geez, there's a whole row of passengers on that plane whose fares just went to getting new tires.


37 posted on 10/24/2006 5:41:36 PM PDT by Textide
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To: PAR35
"Shouldn't that read "My hat's off to those Russian engineers."

Yes, it should.

38 posted on 10/24/2006 7:19:55 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: avg_freeper

Oh, you're good....real good. Fun playing with the newbie engineers, isn't it? ;o)


39 posted on 10/24/2006 7:22:08 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Bringing the parts together in Everett

Those are some of the worst attempts at great circle routes I've ever seen! Don't they know there are more direct routes that can be taken?

40 posted on 10/24/2006 7:25:05 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Hm. Flat sides. I recall reading somewhere that the cargo compartment is not pressurized. Good thing.


41 posted on 10/25/2006 10:36:11 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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