I rarely engange the crevo scene at FR for exactly that reason. You post one opinion that questions some point of ToE and the next thing you know you've got folks accusing you of being some kind of Luddite subversive, working behind the scenes trying to unhinging the very Laws of Physics. In fact, just posting this risks that someone will think it's bait [it's not] and flame me for having posting it.
I know of no one who avows creation as writ who disavows "science"; many are, like yourself, working scientists. Honestly. One's position on origins doesn't change the way one might write an analysis on cellular mitosis; it doesn't impact how one might perform a chemical titration; it has exactly zero impact upon the myriad daily tasks carried out by them daily in their work as scientists. Still, there are those in these forums who cannot abide simple observations -- much less a point of debate, that's five or seven orders of magnitude upscale -- such as "this data set could have an explanation that doesn't support ToE". No way. Not going to happen. EVERY post that makes the slightest intimation that ToE could be less than 100% bulletproof MUST be squashed like bubonic plague and no amount of piling on is to be spared. Ever.
Bottom line: people have got to the place where crevo cannot be a simple smoky back room discussion amongst ladies and gentlemen; it has to be a house-wrecking bareknucled brawl that spills into the streets and degenerates into a bloody gunbattle to the last man standing. That's not the fault of ToE, nor is it the fault of the Bible; it's the fault of posters -- posters on BOTH sides of the issue, mind you -- who cannot simply, politely, answer a point or observation, but simply MUST insert their snide little goads; who have so little self-control that they cannot resist the urge to needle and mock; who take the discussion into insulting and derogatory waters with needless, sophomoric (and that's being generous), retorts that precipitate the downward spiral of the whole thread into a morass of childish name-calling and mudslinging in which all manner of narrowmindedness and otherwise hidden bigotries emerge en flagrante. AAAND, in case nobody's noticed, the denizens of DU keep coming by with lawn chairs and buckets of pocorn to cheer and jeer the gore and carnage.
I've had GREAT discussions in my lifetime with others whos views were diametrically opposed to my own on many differing topics. Tone, demeanor, manners, and mutual respect made ALL the difference. So, I submit to you that it is not "anti-science" or "pro-science" Conservatives who are sullying FR, and, by extension, the whole Conservative movement; it is anti-social, rude, impertinent, foul-mouthed, posters who lack manners, respect and self-control who are sullying FR, and, by extension, the whole Conservative movement.
I can get behind that 100%.
Bad posters drive away good posters.
Yup. you pegged it. And that's why I avoid those threads like the plague.
That is the closest thing to a perfect post on the Crevo topics as I've ever seen!
...and your tagline echoes something I've always said to myself but never put in writing.
Cheers!
Thank you.