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Be careful, ladies it's his bathroom, too
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 28, 2006

Posted on 10/28/2006 8:57:05 PM PDT by Dan Evans

New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice.

If you happen to be passing through Grand Central Station and nature calls, you just might want to hold it until you get home, because, this week, officials with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority decided that transgendered people have the right to use the bathroom – men's or women's – of their choice on New York's subway system.

Helena Stone: "I'm a 24-hour woman."

The agreement was reached following a lawsuit filed by Helena Stone – formerly known as Henry McGuinness – who was arrested twice in 2005 and once earlier this year for disorderly conduct after using the women's restroom at Grand Central Station.

Stone, 70, who is a telephone technician for Verizon, worked regularly at the transit facility when the arrests happened.

A police officer allegedly called Stone "a freak, a weirdo and the ugliest woman in the world" and warned, "If I ever see you in the women's bathroom, I'm going to arrest you."

Stone, who claimed to be forced to use a cup after the arrests instead of a bathroom, filed a complaint with New York City's Human Rights Commission and became a cause célèbre with the sexual-minority community in the city.

"That's the only bathroom I use," Stone told a rally. "That's who I am."

The agreement reached by MTA is similar to a policy instituted by the Human Rights Commission for government and other public bathrooms in the city. MTA will pay Stone $2,000 in damages for legal fees, according to the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, which handled the case. MTA also agreed to conduct transgender-sensitivity training for employees.

"I'm thrilled with it," Stone said of the agreement.

Not all transit riders shared Stone's enthusiasm, however.

"I would not like that," Gloria David, a retiree from Connecticut told the New York Daily News. "I have nothing against 'gay' men or drag queens, but they can use the men's room. I just don't want to go to the bathroom next to a man."

Concern was expressed by another rider that sexual predators could now dress as women and lurk in women's restrooms.

For Rena Gantz, a 23-year-old college student, the settlement was a non-issue.

"It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."

And that suits Stone just fine.

"I'm a 24-hour woman," Stone declared. "I just feel like a woman and I like to wear women's clothes."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crossdressers; grandcentralstation; homosexualagenda
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41 posted on 10/28/2006 10:22:14 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64

You're getting there. It worked, nonetheless.


42 posted on 10/28/2006 10:25:20 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun
I know I have a syntax problem. And I know you can't teach this stuff over the internet because it takes the characters as valid. I tried to show FReeper stephenjohnbanker how to post an image and it was almost impossible.

I'll play some more tomorrow until I get ti right.

Thanks Jaysun.

43 posted on 10/28/2006 10:33:31 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: radiohead
If any creep with a wig can enter a public woman's restroom, then he would also be allowed to hang out in woman's spas, sauna or locker rooms at the pool.

This is insane.
44 posted on 10/28/2006 10:38:52 PM PDT by Dan Evans (.)
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To: Sterm26

Reminds me a little of a blond Will Sampson (Chief from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest")

45 posted on 10/28/2006 10:39:55 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: Revolting cat!

How'd YOU like it if some usually-well-behaved WOMAN decided to dress like a MAN and ogle (or laugh at) YOU in YOUR bathroom??? PLEASE... we have enough genuine perverts out there without us straight and normal people pretending to join them! Besides, it's too clean and perfume-y in a ladies' restroom for a straight fellow to feel comfortable there.
You have been warned.


46 posted on 10/28/2006 11:32:44 PM PDT by cindobindo
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To: sinanju

The lawsuit will come when the city is held liable for a rape by a female impersonator-impersonator.


47 posted on 10/28/2006 11:54:32 PM PDT by Republican Babe (God bless America.)
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To: Petronski

And leave the toilet seat up!


48 posted on 10/28/2006 11:57:03 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Jaysun
You are right, a very perceptive comment: "we cannot tolerate the "normalization" of perversion."

This is why George Bush's toadying after Ted Kennedy who is a moral and political pervert and his pandering to Bill Clinton who is also a pervert, also in both respects, is so damaging to the nation both politically and morally.

The right to be intolerant should be considered one of the foundation stones of our liberties. Note carefully, I did not say the government had a right to be intolerant nor do I condone violence in furtherance of personal intolerance. And I concede that even private intolerance, when based on race or religion, edges on dangerous ground. But for the government to control behavior even in these realms of great sensitivity is to invite cultural fascism on a massive governmental level.

Under these circumstances of government imposed political correctness it would be impossible to ostracize, shame, ridicule, or humiliate those society needs to keep in check. If our government, acting out of misguided political correctness, prevents us from performing these tasks, the risk of government fascism is greater than the damage which might be done through private, nonviolent, intolerance.

Before political correctness, the government permitted us to be intolerant of homosexuals. The day might soon come when the government prevents us from being intolerant of pederasts. The government has long since prohibited us in much of our private affairs from being intolerant on the basis of race or religion. But not all of our private affairs are controlled by the government in this respect, the government still permits us in many jurisdictions, for example, to be intolerant on the basis of race about whom we will accept as tenants in our private homes.

The danger of the government legislating tolerance in private affairs has been amply demonstrated in the fiascoes arising out of sexual-harassment laws where the government has substituted a bizarre and subjective standard for the millennia tested give-and-take arising out of the war between the sexes. In the old days, when a man overstepped his bounds, it was handled privately and he may well have been "ostracized, shamed, ridiculed and humiliated." Today his employer might well have to forfeit millions of dollars and all other employees might well have to undergo brainwashing courses until they are fully educated to Big Brother's new standards-or more realistically, absence of standards. Which is worse, private intolerance or political correctness?


49 posted on 10/29/2006 12:48:25 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Dan Evans
This article doesn't fully know what it's talking about--not unusual for WND. The first line says. New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice. Then, the rest of the article deals with the law about restroom accommodations for the "transgendered". Cross-dressing, is completely different from becoming transgendered. WND really needs to "report," if that's what you want to call what it regurgitates, accurately. This kind of stuff helps maintain their current aura of worthlessness. WND: Worthless iNDeed.
50 posted on 10/29/2006 4:45:16 AM PST by Clara Lou (.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Geesh...haven't you ever watched Ali McBeal?
52 posted on 10/29/2006 5:17:17 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Dan Evans

Good thread for a joke I read yesterday:

A cabbie picks up a nun. She gets into the cab, and notices that the very handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. She asks him why he is staring.

He replies: "I have a question to ask you, but I don't want to offend you"

She answers, "My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive."

He replies "Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me."

She responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: No.1, you have to be single and No. 2, you must be Catholic."

The cab driver is very excited and says, "Yes, I'm single and Catholic!"

"OK" the nun says "Pull into the next alley."

The nun fulfills the cab driver's fantasy with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying.

"My dear child," said the nun, why are you crying?"

He replies "Forgive me but I have sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish."

The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."


53 posted on 10/29/2006 5:21:46 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Dan Evans

Maybe I've seen too many of these forensic type shows (since they're the only thing on the regular networks these days), but ...

What happens when one of these trannies commits a crime and they look to DNA evidence? They're no longer the same "gender" as their DNA would indicate. Who do we allow this as a society?


54 posted on 10/29/2006 6:10:35 AM PST by Disturbin (Get back to work -- millions of people on welfare are counting on you!)
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To: Dan Evans
For Rena Gantz, a 23-year-old college student, the settlement was a non-issue. "It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."

There we go, the product of Marxist indoctrination is just fine with the new perversions. What a wonderful nation my kids will inherit.

55 posted on 10/29/2006 6:12:46 AM PST by montag813
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To: Clara Lou
This article doesn't fully know what it's talking about--not unusual for WND. The first line says. New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice. Then, the rest of the article deals with the law about restroom accommodations for the "transgendered".

From: Girls' room his, tooThe Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression,"

It doesn't say he's "trans-gendered". He's a man. In other words, this creep "feels like a woman" so that gives him the right to enter the girls room.

56 posted on 10/29/2006 6:22:33 AM PST by Dan Evans (.)
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To: Dan Evans


Who said he was a man? In New York, the Madam Murtha
can pee on any public policy he wants to. It's the law.


57 posted on 10/29/2006 6:28:01 AM PST by OESY
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To: Clara Lou
I don't get it, either.  Transgenders and Transvestites who go out are normally expected to use the women's restroom.  Gender support groups have elaborate rules regarding that behavior like Transvestites have to use the ladies room when dress but are not permitted to stand when urinating.  Most of those rules are in place for the comfort of the genetic women.

I can't imagine things are all that different in New York.  I think the big problem in this case is how unladylike this particular trans is.  I can't help but wonder if there's more to the case.....like the trans was crossing the behavior line while in the women's room.

58 posted on 10/29/2006 6:36:26 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Dan Evans
"It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."


59 posted on 10/29/2006 6:47:21 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: Dan Evans

That's disgusting.. why does everyone have to cater to perverts delusions? He's a man, not a woman. A DNA test would be able to prove that right away. Public restrooms are their sex hangouts.


60 posted on 10/29/2006 9:32:43 AM PST by Trillian
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