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Be careful, ladies it's his bathroom, too
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 28, 2006

Posted on 10/28/2006 8:57:05 PM PDT by Dan Evans

New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice.

If you happen to be passing through Grand Central Station and nature calls, you just might want to hold it until you get home, because, this week, officials with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority decided that transgendered people have the right to use the bathroom – men's or women's – of their choice on New York's subway system.

Helena Stone: "I'm a 24-hour woman."

The agreement was reached following a lawsuit filed by Helena Stone – formerly known as Henry McGuinness – who was arrested twice in 2005 and once earlier this year for disorderly conduct after using the women's restroom at Grand Central Station.

Stone, 70, who is a telephone technician for Verizon, worked regularly at the transit facility when the arrests happened.

A police officer allegedly called Stone "a freak, a weirdo and the ugliest woman in the world" and warned, "If I ever see you in the women's bathroom, I'm going to arrest you."

Stone, who claimed to be forced to use a cup after the arrests instead of a bathroom, filed a complaint with New York City's Human Rights Commission and became a cause célèbre with the sexual-minority community in the city.

"That's the only bathroom I use," Stone told a rally. "That's who I am."

The agreement reached by MTA is similar to a policy instituted by the Human Rights Commission for government and other public bathrooms in the city. MTA will pay Stone $2,000 in damages for legal fees, according to the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, which handled the case. MTA also agreed to conduct transgender-sensitivity training for employees.

"I'm thrilled with it," Stone said of the agreement.

Not all transit riders shared Stone's enthusiasm, however.

"I would not like that," Gloria David, a retiree from Connecticut told the New York Daily News. "I have nothing against 'gay' men or drag queens, but they can use the men's room. I just don't want to go to the bathroom next to a man."

Concern was expressed by another rider that sexual predators could now dress as women and lurk in women's restrooms.

For Rena Gantz, a 23-year-old college student, the settlement was a non-issue.

"It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."

And that suits Stone just fine.

"I'm a 24-hour woman," Stone declared. "I just feel like a woman and I like to wear women's clothes."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crossdressers; grandcentralstation; homosexualagenda
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Unintended Consequences of Liberal Tolerance Dept.
1 posted on 10/28/2006 8:57:07 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

This is just wrong. Biology determines one's sex. It is not a social construct or individual preference. This country is going to hell in a handbasket!


2 posted on 10/28/2006 8:59:03 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Dan Evans

Dude, I'm going transgender!


3 posted on 10/28/2006 9:00:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Dan Evans
All perverts should be ostracized, shamed, ridiculed, and humiliated. This is how society has kept itself in check since the beginning of days. Even school kids use ridicule to keep each other in check. Some call it cruel. I call it crucial. We cannot tolerate the "normalization" of perversion.
4 posted on 10/28/2006 9:01:27 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
This is just wrong. Biology determines one's sex.

Exactly, I laugh when a twink says he was born that way, look in the mirror.
5 posted on 10/28/2006 9:01:52 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Dan Evans

When I was young and dumb I remember wondering why we needed a law making it a crime to impersonate a woman.

Obviously, perverts gawking at women in public restrooms is just one of the many reasons.

But I just love it when I read about these logical liberal collisions. Where is N.O.W? Same place they were during the Clinton administration.


6 posted on 10/28/2006 9:05:21 PM PDT by Dan Evans (.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

"This is just wrong. Biology determines one's sex. It is not a social construct or individual preference. This country is going to hell in a handbasket!"

Remember, in the minds of liberals reality is what they think it is at that moment.


7 posted on 10/28/2006 9:07:56 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Dan Evans

He's gonna be found beaten to death in a bathroom stall in the near future.

The murder weapons? Handbags.


8 posted on 10/28/2006 9:08:00 PM PDT by sinanju (s)
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To: Dan Evans

Here's a link with a photo of the "woman" (I still don't know how to post photos on FR like you experts do!)

He/She gives Helen Thomas a run for her money.

http://www.nydailynews.com/10-24-2006/news/story/464637p-390955c.html


9 posted on 10/28/2006 9:12:21 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Jaysun

Well stated!


10 posted on 10/28/2006 9:12:28 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Dan Evans

By the way, ladies, we really don't want to use the French moisturizing sea shells in the "for company" basket on the toilet. That stuff will NOT remove engine grime in this or any other reality.

But if we need to wash, and there's no other soap or Lava, it's going to be done. It's got to be done.

And we're going to dry on the worthless, almost-waterproof, velveteen "company" towels too.


11 posted on 10/28/2006 9:17:20 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Dan Evans

Wow did I ever guess wrong before my other post.

Now that I've read the article, I gotta say I can understand why women might not want some mutilated headcase with XY chromosomes peeing on their accomodations...


12 posted on 10/28/2006 9:19:42 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Petronski
This is one of those stories that just makes one go 'eeew'.

L

13 posted on 10/28/2006 9:19:45 PM PDT by Lurker (A liberal thinks they can sleep in, and someone will cover their lame ass. Ted Nugent)
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To: dljordan
"It doesn't bother me because it is a reality," she said. "If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."

OK Rena. I believe I'm the junior Senator from New York. Does that entitle me to take over Hillary's office and cast her votes? I really, sincerely believe I'll be a better senator than her. And, as you said, because I beleive, I am.

14 posted on 10/28/2006 9:21:41 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Dan Evans

The title of the thread had me thinking that it would be another "toilet seat position" thread. I could only wish that were true. :)


15 posted on 10/28/2006 9:23:05 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: Sterm26
He/She gives Helen Thomas a run for her money.

As a woman, this guy makes Ms. Thomas into a beauty contestant. As an old guy, he looks like he should be acting in a horror movie.

16 posted on 10/28/2006 9:23:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: Sterm26

Good God, that's sick. Would you like for me to teach you how to post photos?


17 posted on 10/28/2006 9:24:15 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun

Are you sure you'd want to after that picture?? :)


18 posted on 10/28/2006 9:25:11 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Dan Evans

this is the second story this week about the women's bathroom and both of them are shocking... the first post was the one where men are kneeling on the toilet in the women's bathroom and waiting to put a gun to the woman's face when she enters and make her undress and then take her clothes and her money and have ample time to escape and flee


19 posted on 10/28/2006 9:25:30 PM PDT by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: Jaysun

50 years too late bump.


20 posted on 10/28/2006 9:25:38 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: Sterm26
From your link:

http://www.nydailynews.com/10-24-2006/news/story/464637p-390955c.html

"The MTA would not comment on the settlement but Stone's lawyer said it also includes mandatory transgender sensitivity training for MTA employees"

This is what really pisses me off. Some pervert gets to lord it over decent people for a few hours in a "sensitivity training class".
21 posted on 10/28/2006 9:26:07 PM PDT by Dan Evans (.)
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To: Sterm26
Hey buddy, what is the html to make a link hot? I cut and paste stuff like this:

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=14457200288064322170

But I don't know how to make it clickable.

22 posted on 10/28/2006 9:26:32 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Dan Evans

Go to the plumbing set up for your plumbing.


23 posted on 10/28/2006 9:26:41 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Sterm26


Yep, pretty tight race there!


24 posted on 10/28/2006 9:27:22 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: Sterm26
Are you sure you'd want to after that picture?? :)

It doesn't have to be that picture. I can give you a quick (and free) lesson via private mail. I ask you because if you're not interested I'd rather not waste my time, or your's.
25 posted on 10/28/2006 9:28:39 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: sinanju

He's gonna be found beaten to death in a bathroom stall in the near future.

The murder weapons? Handbags.



No one will have seen a thing.


26 posted on 10/28/2006 9:29:45 PM PDT by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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To: Cobra64
Cobra64,
I'll make you the same offer that I made him. I'll give you a quick tutorial, for free, via private mail. I can show you how to paste pictures, links, make your writing bold, etc. If you'd like to know how I can show you in a few minutes, just FReepmail me.
27 posted on 10/28/2006 9:31:14 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Dan Evans

"Sensistivity training"= Re-education camp


28 posted on 10/28/2006 9:32:52 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Jaysun

Thanks much, I sent a private Freepmail.


29 posted on 10/28/2006 9:33:42 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
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To: Dan Evans

The "Gay Bigendered Tranny Whatever" lobby really sets themselves back with crap like this. The gay men I know just laugh at the tranny-types (and even NAMBLA), which just sets their resentment level higher.

They have their eggs in one political basket, know it, and just have to ride it out with extremism.

Which is a shame, because there are some decent Log Cabins who sit square with the rest of us.


30 posted on 10/28/2006 9:33:43 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Lynne Cheney 2008)
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To: Unam Sanctam
This country is going to hell in a handbasket!

You ain't kiddin'.

31 posted on 10/28/2006 9:35:06 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: sinanju

Handbags... stilettos babe.


32 posted on 10/28/2006 9:36:48 PM PDT by rwilson99 (95% of Al-Jazzera Viewers Agree... the world is less safe (for them) since 9/11)
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To: IslandJeff
The gay men I know just laugh at the tranny-types (and even NAMBLA), which just sets their resentment level higher.

And that is supposed bad thing?
33 posted on 10/28/2006 9:45:46 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Lurker

When I finally read the whole story, yes, "eeew" was exactly what I said.

Good call.


34 posted on 10/28/2006 9:46:12 PM PDT by Petronski (CNN is an insidiously treasonous, enemy propaganda organ.)
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To: Petronski

As long as the French soap is in the shape of a square right???


35 posted on 10/28/2006 9:49:39 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Vigilanteman
"If they believe they are women, they should be treated as one."

This is typical ditzy college thinking. We've got a petition going around now on my campus for 'safe bathrooms' for transgendered people. I want to know how many friggin' transgendered people are there? There can't possibly be enough to make the school take away money from, let me think, funding the libraries, science labs, or computer labs, to build additional bathrooms.

If a person has had the full operation, then I guess they need to come into the appropriate bathroom. But I don't want to see some guy w/a wig and a penis in my bathroom. Sorry. Call me insensitive.

I wonder what the university is going to do when some woman gets raped in a bathroom by a guy pretending to be transgendered?

36 posted on 10/28/2006 9:54:37 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Dan Evans

37 posted on 10/28/2006 9:56:16 PM PDT by woofie (If not this war then which one?)
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To: Jaysun

Thanks Jaysun. I figured out the bold, italic, size

and photos,

Any other tricks, especially active links like this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667566/posts

would be great. Thanks

38 posted on 10/28/2006 9:59:35 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: seastay

I think a part of being homosexual is feeling "victimized" by being so. So, as a result, they tend to congregate in urban areas, set up a "community", then laugh at each others' extreme behavior.

That one could call themselves "gay" and mean it is really an abuse of the language. Most I know are miserable and only use politics to lash out. The etiology I cannot speak for.


39 posted on 10/28/2006 10:04:29 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Lynne Cheney 2008)
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To: Cobra64
Okay cobra. You understand that you have to put brackets with something in between them before and after the desired effect. To code to do a link is found at the top of this page:

http://cedesign.net/help2j.htm

You can also find a lot of other useful tricks there. (Note: to copy and paste the example code on that page simply highlight it and push "ctrl C")
40 posted on 10/28/2006 10:04:35 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun

<A HREF="some.htm" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667566/posts


41 posted on 10/28/2006 10:22:14 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64

You're getting there. It worked, nonetheless.


42 posted on 10/28/2006 10:25:20 PM PDT by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun
I know I have a syntax problem. And I know you can't teach this stuff over the internet because it takes the characters as valid. I tried to show FReeper stephenjohnbanker how to post an image and it was almost impossible.

I'll play some more tomorrow until I get ti right.

Thanks Jaysun.

43 posted on 10/28/2006 10:33:31 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: radiohead
If any creep with a wig can enter a public woman's restroom, then he would also be allowed to hang out in woman's spas, sauna or locker rooms at the pool.

This is insane.
44 posted on 10/28/2006 10:38:52 PM PDT by Dan Evans (.)
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To: Sterm26

Reminds me a little of a blond Will Sampson (Chief from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest")

45 posted on 10/28/2006 10:39:55 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: Revolting cat!

How'd YOU like it if some usually-well-behaved WOMAN decided to dress like a MAN and ogle (or laugh at) YOU in YOUR bathroom??? PLEASE... we have enough genuine perverts out there without us straight and normal people pretending to join them! Besides, it's too clean and perfume-y in a ladies' restroom for a straight fellow to feel comfortable there.
You have been warned.


46 posted on 10/28/2006 11:32:44 PM PDT by cindobindo
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To: sinanju

The lawsuit will come when the city is held liable for a rape by a female impersonator-impersonator.


47 posted on 10/28/2006 11:54:32 PM PDT by Republican Babe (God bless America.)
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To: Petronski

And leave the toilet seat up!


48 posted on 10/28/2006 11:57:03 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Jaysun
You are right, a very perceptive comment: "we cannot tolerate the "normalization" of perversion."

This is why George Bush's toadying after Ted Kennedy who is a moral and political pervert and his pandering to Bill Clinton who is also a pervert, also in both respects, is so damaging to the nation both politically and morally.

The right to be intolerant should be considered one of the foundation stones of our liberties. Note carefully, I did not say the government had a right to be intolerant nor do I condone violence in furtherance of personal intolerance. And I concede that even private intolerance, when based on race or religion, edges on dangerous ground. But for the government to control behavior even in these realms of great sensitivity is to invite cultural fascism on a massive governmental level.

Under these circumstances of government imposed political correctness it would be impossible to ostracize, shame, ridicule, or humiliate those society needs to keep in check. If our government, acting out of misguided political correctness, prevents us from performing these tasks, the risk of government fascism is greater than the damage which might be done through private, nonviolent, intolerance.

Before political correctness, the government permitted us to be intolerant of homosexuals. The day might soon come when the government prevents us from being intolerant of pederasts. The government has long since prohibited us in much of our private affairs from being intolerant on the basis of race or religion. But not all of our private affairs are controlled by the government in this respect, the government still permits us in many jurisdictions, for example, to be intolerant on the basis of race about whom we will accept as tenants in our private homes.

The danger of the government legislating tolerance in private affairs has been amply demonstrated in the fiascoes arising out of sexual-harassment laws where the government has substituted a bizarre and subjective standard for the millennia tested give-and-take arising out of the war between the sexes. In the old days, when a man overstepped his bounds, it was handled privately and he may well have been "ostracized, shamed, ridiculed and humiliated." Today his employer might well have to forfeit millions of dollars and all other employees might well have to undergo brainwashing courses until they are fully educated to Big Brother's new standards-or more realistically, absence of standards. Which is worse, private intolerance or political correctness?


49 posted on 10/29/2006 12:48:25 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Dan Evans
This article doesn't fully know what it's talking about--not unusual for WND. The first line says. New York OKs crossdressers to use facilities of their choice. Then, the rest of the article deals with the law about restroom accommodations for the "transgendered". Cross-dressing, is completely different from becoming transgendered. WND really needs to "report," if that's what you want to call what it regurgitates, accurately. This kind of stuff helps maintain their current aura of worthlessness. WND: Worthless iNDeed.
50 posted on 10/29/2006 4:45:16 AM PST by Clara Lou (.)
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