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"They would rather see America be destroyed than see Bush win"

I think the destroy-Bush-at-all-costs crowds is the results of a gimme-NOW generation. They have never learned to have to wait for anything, so they never think past today, the moment, themselves.

They are angry because they see Bush as the hold up to putting someone in power who will give them all that they want for the moment, and they can't see past today to know what the results of taking out Bush will ultimately mean. They don't think of it as destroying America, they proclaim that they love America as much as anyone.

Its the same thing when they go spend their latest paycheck on a new TV or cell phone rather than thinking about where the money will come from to pay the rent next week... or retirement down the road.

Those idiots are only responding to their inculcation of the past 30 years.

First, the left defined *being good* as being pacifist, tolerant, politically correct, environmentally correct et al. Then all they had to do was remind people that if they deviated from any of these stances, they were, by definition, NOT being good. Everyone has been taught that the highest good is that action which makes them feel better about themselves.

That was the goal of all those self-esteem programs. The progressives are quite open about their belief that "everyone wants to be good".

I see daily the hypocrisy of all this: people who refuse to save and invest because it would make them part of *the system*. People who refuse any medical treatment that is mainstream, preferring to *support the community* of alternative practitioners, where all their beliefs are either catered to or fine-tuned if they are in even the most minute deviation. People who will react to studies proving that recycling is wasteful, expensive and doesn't accomplish its goals by saying:"I don't care. I do it for me." People who are religiously organic and hire exterminators for their own homes. Global warming fanatics who take frequent vacations to places only reachable by airplane.

They ask why, if we were really attacked on 9/11, we didn't bomb Saudi Arabia off the map. They simply refuse to accept any explanation longer than a bumper sticker. They have their catechism and they will stick to it until it kills them.

This group is distinct from the one you reference in that they read newspapers, have never watched FNC but hate it because they have read in their papers that it is a Republican mouthpiece, who hate *the rich*, but support the billionaires on the left and who are despondent about global warming, but feel powerless to do anything about it and angry that those they invest with all sorts of magical powers (ie: Republicans in government)aren't forcing the entire country to waste time, treasure and energy helping to end a natural climatic phenomena. All this crowd wants is organic milk, available pot, a small landholding in the country and the opportunity to feel good about themselves for not being part of "the machine".

Not contradicting you, at all, just wanted to vent about other segments who hate Bush and the war and the USA as we knew it. Bush personifies reality and reality doesn't make them feel superior or good about themselves and is, therefore, the main enemy.

I think the destroy-Bush-at-all-costs crowds is the results of a gimme-NOW generation. They have never learned to have to wait for anything, so they never think past today, the moment, themselves.

I hate to say it, but you can find people like that right here. I had a freeper actually complain to my that after 3 1/2 years we're still fighting and Iraqi is still not peaceful. Wat too many people seem to think this is like a movie, where the hero saves the day and rides off into the sunset all in 2 1/2 hours.