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The nasty side of the new GOP
The Star-Ledger via NJ.com ^ | October 23, 2006 | John Farmer

Posted on 10/29/2006 9:58:20 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: MNJohnnie
"Ronald Reagan would of never been so stupid as too piss off the most activist, comitted part of his base. "

The is nothing committed about threatening to not vote, that seems to have been the whole point of the article.
41 posted on 10/29/2006 10:46:37 AM PST by ndt
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To: JCEccles; Suzy Quzy

Wow! This is news to me. I haven't followed him since he has been out of office. I'm very disappointed to hear about his change of heart. He always struck me as a Christian, himself.


42 posted on 10/29/2006 10:48:03 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Perhaps the internet gambling ban, tacked onto a ports security bill, would count as one instance?

Puh-leeze. Internet gambling? Never so much as heard of it, even on FR, as a federal issue. Obviously there was no big 'demagoguery' or controversy at the time. And that's hardly the sort of thing social/religious conservatives care about, anyhow. Got any less pathetic examples? The *only* thing I can think of in recent memory where social conservatives had any noticeable influence was the Harriet Miers nomination.

43 posted on 10/29/2006 10:53:53 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: jammer
Marriage is a sacrament among church-going people who believe it is a sacrament. It will be a sacrament for them regardless of whether the state acknowledges it or not.

Marriage is also a social contract that everyone has a stake in. That's why the state has been involved in marriage from the inception of the Republic. It is fundamental, and we weaken it and destroy it at our peril.

Marriage has already been weakened and destroyed in Europe, and the native populations of those short-sighted countries are rapidly becoming extinct.

Abortion and contraception have already dealt near death blows to the family by relegating its purpose--procreation and the rearing of children--to a secondary benefit at best and a nuisance at worst.

Gay marriage will further weaken traditional marriage in the same way that flooding the money supply with counterfeit bills destroys the value of money.

In the final analysis it isn't the number of abortions or gay marriages in a narrow sense that will doom us. It is the rewriting of the story we tell and believe about ourselves as Americans that will do it.

The story that built this nation was that Americans were virile and fertile, strong, no-nonsense, hard-working men and women who married for life and reared families of children that grew up to be virile and fertile, strong, no-nonsense, and hard-working men and women just like their parents.

That script is being rewritten along a profoundly sick, effete, and passive European model that prizes ease, comfort, and self-pleasure over the hard of rearing families to take on the essential nation and economy-sustaining burdens of tomorrow.

There are limited ways to restore the script. While a marriage amendment will not rewrite the script, it will prevent counterfeit homosexual marriage from being emended into the text.

That's better than sitting on our hands and letting the traditional American family die without a whimper.

44 posted on 10/29/2006 10:55:28 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Sloth
Visit Dobson's website where they're cheering the Internet gambling ban as a victory for "morality". It's been a huge issue for religious conservatives for years now.
45 posted on 10/29/2006 11:10:43 AM PST by UncleDick
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I do not agree with the Democrat party on any issue and never vote for them but I do admire them for one thing. None of them and I mean no one in the Democrat party would ever make a statement like that just days before an election.

How stupid can you be?
46 posted on 10/29/2006 11:20:26 AM PST by kempo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thank you, Dick Armey, for pissing off a portion of the Republican base just before the election. I appreciate that. *rolling my eyes*


47 posted on 10/29/2006 11:33:30 AM PST by ilovew (I love being a DoD intern...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This article clearly is an attempt by the MSM, serving their Dem masters, to suppress the conservative vote -- get them mad at the Republicans and have them stay home, so the Dems, lead by Nancy Pelosi can win.

I hope people are smarter than this and won't let the Dems take over the country.

There are a lot of very close races, where a few votes can make a difference.


48 posted on 10/29/2006 11:35:27 AM PST by FairOpinion (Vote Republican. The life you save may be your own. This is not an exaggeration.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sounds like Dick Armey has left politics, taken his conservative mask off, and decided to burn his bridges behind him.

So long, don't let the door hit you, Dicky!

There's something truly disgusting about pulling a stunt like this right before the election. I hope his book hits the remainder table. Liberals won't buy it, and now neither will conservatives. What a jerk.


49 posted on 10/29/2006 11:38:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

HAHAHA!!! Where is the MSM and their editorial investigations of the "Nasty old side of the DNC"
I would love to see some articles interviewing Zell Miller and his opinion of the left wing loons that have held the rats party for the last 40 years.


50 posted on 10/29/2006 11:42:20 AM PST by roostercogburn
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

So I wear a breast plate with a cross on it and am a 'mother' of an SOB. Who's asking?


51 posted on 10/29/2006 11:52:29 AM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: basil

He said it in a book. These days, you've gotta say something sensational to sell your book.

Basically, he's getting paid to trash the GOP.


52 posted on 10/29/2006 11:53:36 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
the beginning of a hard examination of what's happened to the GOP under George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

Um...becoming the majority party?

53 posted on 10/29/2006 11:55:00 AM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It's fascinating what you can learn about politicians when they're retired and don't feel the need to court votes anymore.


54 posted on 10/29/2006 11:56:31 AM PST by RichInOC (If you want a more conservative America, the solution is never going to be electing more Democrats.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

You're right. The GOP has not pushed thru legislation at the instance of the Religious Right. On the other hand, the Religious Right has not been getting the GOP elected either, so they aren't in a very good position to complain.

The fact is that there really aren't that many Christians in America anymore. You can see that when you're on your way to church on Sunday morning. The roads are deserted.


55 posted on 10/29/2006 11:58:17 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

hmm - a relative description (although the trend of concern is indeed there - each generation must be re-evangelized and it's not been going as well as it needs to of late). Someone has nonthekess pointed out that church attendance on any given Sunday is far greater than the total annual attendance at professional sports events...


56 posted on 10/29/2006 12:30:50 PM PST by Tirian
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To: Cicero
There has always been an element of the Republican party which upon retirement finds it difficult to gain access to the cocktail party circuit, and to available women, without moderating their views.

Armey is just a bored old man, looking for attention. He suffers from "Spotlight withdraw" symptoms.
57 posted on 10/29/2006 12:44:54 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Being a Liberal is just a coping mechanism for low self esteem and/or bad parenting.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Dick Armey seems to think money issues are of greater moral importance than life and family.

Glad he isn't my daddy.

His is just the kind of influence that has used Christians, manipulating us to gain support for Country Club Republicans.

58 posted on 10/29/2006 12:58:27 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I think you're right. But there's nothing sadder than a man who has spent his life in public service, and then repudiates everything that people thought he stood for.

I doubt if this will endear him to the givers of cocktail parties, because nobody likes a turncoat, not even those who have benefited from his treason.

He has burned his bridges, and will likely live to regret it.


59 posted on 10/29/2006 1:21:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: balch3
If not for social conservatives the GOP would be a permanent minority. Social conservatism is the heart and soul of the party.

Good point.

60 posted on 10/29/2006 3:13:28 PM PST by Logophile
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