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Iraq - British to evacuate consulate in Basra after mortar attacks
Daily Telegraph (UK) (excerpt) ^ | October 30, 2006 | Thomas Harding

Posted on 10/29/2006 7:32:27 PM PST by HAL9000

Excerpt -

The British consulate in Basra will evacuate its heavily defended building in the next 24 hours over concerns for the safety of its staff.

Despite a large British military presence at the headquarters in Basra Palace, a private security assessment has advised the consul general and her staff to leave the building after experiencing regular mortar attacks in the last two months.

The move will be seen as a huge blow to progress in Iraq and has infuriated senior military commanders. They say it sends a message to the insurgents that they are winning the battle in pushing the British out of the southern Iraqi capital, where several British soldiers have died and dozens have been injured.

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: basra; iraq

1 posted on 10/29/2006 7:32:29 PM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

The commanders are correct. There will be rejoicing in the streets.


2 posted on 10/29/2006 7:34:34 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Dog; Cap Huff

Ping


3 posted on 10/29/2006 7:36:39 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: HAL9000

Damn...this is not good.


4 posted on 10/29/2006 7:41:42 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: HAL9000

Where is the true British spirit when you need it?

I think it's time for Shock and Awe II!


5 posted on 10/29/2006 7:41:51 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Pig's blood...when diplomacy fails.)
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To: mystery-ak

God speed to your son too! He's a truely great American!


6 posted on 10/29/2006 7:42:47 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Pig's blood...when diplomacy fails.)
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To: HAL9000

5 bucks says this changes.


7 posted on 10/29/2006 7:43:26 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: bnelson44

You are correct. This is really shameful.

Also, thank your son for me and my friends!


8 posted on 10/29/2006 7:44:02 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Pig's blood...when diplomacy fails.)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Will do. If you haven't seen this yet, you might want to share it:

12 Profound Minutes
From:
http://www.mudvillegazette.com/milblogs/2006/10/29/#006875

[Major John]
The Army provides a 12 minute explanation of "Boots on the Ground." I just left a meeting of several hundred Illinois Army National Guard Soldiers a few hours ago. When this film clip was shown, there was stone silence when it ended. A profound message for those of us who have been given the honor, the privilege, and the responsibility to leader Soldiers.

video is here:
http://miserabledonuts.blogspot.com/2006/10/profound-twelve-minutes.html


9 posted on 10/29/2006 7:45:02 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: oneamericanvoice

"Where is the true British spirit when you need it? "

Maybe if Saddam had tried to kill Blair's daddy the Brits be more willing to bankrupt themselves forcing democracy onto people who don't want it.


10 posted on 10/29/2006 7:51:46 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Thank you...this article upset me cause he's in this area..


11 posted on 10/29/2006 7:52:55 PM PST by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: gcruse

Hey, I didn't know Bill Maher posted on FR.


12 posted on 10/29/2006 8:06:38 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: gcruse
Maybe if Saddam had tried to kill Blair's daddy the Brits be more willing to bankrupt themselves forcing democracy onto people who don't want it.

Neither Britain nor the US has the power to "force" democracy in the Middle East. All we can do is offer it to the people as our Plan A. If this doesn't work and terrorism against the civilized world continues, then we'll use Plan B: do as many Dresdens as it takes to make them surrender unconditionally.

13 posted on 10/29/2006 8:26:06 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: oneamericanvoice

Stiff upper lip has been replaced with political correctness.



14 posted on 10/29/2006 8:50:08 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: bnelson44

I couldn't get the video to play on the Army video page (probably my browser setup), but it played with this URL:
http://stream.army.mil/AMP/WarCorner/CTDBOTG_main.mov


15 posted on 10/29/2006 8:50:32 PM PST by FreePoster
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To: gcruse

What a really profound, in depth analysis. Oh, wait they were the Democraps 2004 talking points--never mind.


16 posted on 10/29/2006 9:18:44 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: BlazingArizona

then we'll use Plan B: do as many Dresdens as it takes to make them surrender unconditionally.



Plan B should have been started on 9/12. THEN, they would have been more interested in plan A.


17 posted on 10/29/2006 9:32:15 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: HAL9000
the consul general and her staff

...

18 posted on 10/30/2006 11:19:19 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: BlazingArizona
"...then we'll use Plan B: do as many Dresdens as it takes to make them surrender unconditionally."

Which should have been Plan A.

A dedicated enemy will never reciprocate the consideration of sparing his family while trying to kill him.
He will see that as a sign of weakness and indecision..

It appears our politicians have the will to risk our warriors in a politically correct and dangerous ROE environment -- but not the will to kill the enemy in LARGE numbers....laying waste to vast areas that support the enemy.

Semper Fi

19 posted on 10/31/2006 12:15:54 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: HAL9000

specifically target the firebrand clerics and immans, give the people time to add 2 + 2 together without getting fired up


20 posted on 10/31/2006 2:14:13 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: bnelson44; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

USMC ping to the Army. Must see: bnelson's link.


21 posted on 10/31/2006 3:07:11 AM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: lp boonie

He is another one percenter libertarian.

Not that I don't like him, but if one truly believes that Bush invaded Iraq because of a plot to kill dad, then...well, nuff said.


22 posted on 10/31/2006 3:07:28 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: gcruse
"Maybe if Saddam had tried to kill Blair's daddy the Brits be more willing to bankrupt themselves forcing democracy onto people who don't want it."

Oh yea, our economy’s bankrupt and falling apart. Your insight into Bush’s character is as brain dead as your perception of economics.

23 posted on 10/31/2006 4:03:02 AM PST by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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To: HAL9000

and this guy trying best he can to appease that POS cleric Sadar



BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Tuesday ordered the lifting of joint U.S.-Iraqi military checkpoints around the Shiite militant stronghold of Sadr City — another apparent move to assert his authority with the Americans and appeal to his Shiite support base.

All barricades and checkpoints around Sadr City and elsewhere in Baghdad must be lifted by 5 p.m., al-Maliki said in an order issued in his capacity both as prime minister and commander of the Iraqi armed forces.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226357,00.html


24 posted on 10/31/2006 4:26:14 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: TomasUSMC
Plan B should have been started on 9/12. THEN, they would have been more interested in plan A.

Had Plan B been used; this war in the middle east would be finished by now and we would have a whole lot less dead on our side. As it is now, we will lose more people and the war will still not be won. I certainly do not understand our strategy. We can win this war in thirty days or less, if we have a mind to do so. So what are we afraid of.....?

25 posted on 10/31/2006 5:08:54 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many

Afraid of? Simple:
(1) the Democrats.
(2) see (1).


26 posted on 10/31/2006 6:40:48 AM PST by OldArmy52 (China & India: Doing jobs Americans don't want to do (manuf., engineering, accounting, etc))
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To: freema
What is not dicussed are the Brits plans to perhaps go after those that are lobbing the mortar shells into the compound.
I do hope they start to take a more aggressive approach to the over all situation that has been brewing in southern Iraq for a few years. They do not have adequate forces in place for one thing, and they had farted around entirely to much with marginal dangerouse groups associated with both the Badr brigade and the Mahdi army.
Diplomacy only goes so far in this type scenario.
27 posted on 10/31/2006 8:34:44 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: HAL9000

...a private security assessment has advised the consul general and her staff to leave the building...



Yeah, they had ACME Security come in and do an assessment. They got skerred at the first boom, crapped their shorts, and said we gotta get the #(*& outta here!

They should have relied on the MILITARY assessment. Sandbag the roofs, and sit tight.


28 posted on 10/31/2006 1:20:10 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: From One - Many

We can win this war in thirty days or less, if we have a mind to do so. So what are we afraid of.....?

====
EX ACT LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 10/31/2006 4:45:13 PM PST by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Marine_Uncle

As does farting.

There I was, reading another of your great analysis and you throw in 'farting'?! I'm absolutely cracking up!

Can't quit chuckling. : )


30 posted on 10/31/2006 6:34:59 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Mom. Glad I made you laugh. Sometimes we get so absorbed in the details of often sad things, we forget humor should be introduced upon occasions where warranted.


31 posted on 10/31/2006 9:02:28 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: HAL9000

So... instead of establishing a 'no man's land' around the consulate that is greater than the range of the mortars, the British decide to evacuate the consulate?

Yeah, that'll ensure the terrorists learn the right lesson... that lobbing mortars will drive out the 'invaders'.

Whereas the other option would ensure that the terrorist learn that lobbing mortars would... hurt their fellow countrymen while not affecting the 'invaders' at all.

Hmmm...


32 posted on 11/01/2006 11:19:42 PM PST by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breathe some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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