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Australia: Muslim Rape Gang Leader Smiles As He Is Sentenced
westernresistance ^ | July 30, 2006 | blog archive

Posted on 10/30/2006 1:22:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks

There is something deeply disturbing about this case. Rape is always something vile, violent and unconscionable. That it should happen in a gang of up to 14 members, when its youngest victim was 16, is bad enough. That the rapists are unrepentant, and with one Muslim "spokesman" now saying that the leaders of the gang should be "honoured and respected", makes the case more sickening still.

Last December, riots took place on Cronulla Beach between white gangs and Lebanese Muslim gangs. Mark Steyn commented that one fault of the riots lay in young Muslims' refusal to integrate. We quoted from his article:

In Sydney in 2002, the leader of a group of Lebanese-Australian Muslim gang-rapists was sentenced to 55 years (halved on appeal).

The lads liked to tell the lucky lady that she was about to be "fucked Leb-style" and that she deserved it because she was an "Australian pig". It was the sentence that was "controversial". As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it? Perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at the racism by exclusion practised with such a vengeance by our community and cultural institutions."

But for many Australians, the case of the rape gang led by Bilal Skaf (pictured above left) created nothing but rage and resentment at the brazenness of the perpetrators.

As Mark Steyn said, Bilal Skaf was sentenced on 15 August 2002 to 55 years' jail for leading a series of rapes which took place in and around Sydney in 2000. The sentencing report makes for grim reading. Justice Michael Finanne states that the gang's attacks were coordinated using cellular phones, and led to young girls being lured away, sometimes on the pretext of being taken off to smoke marijuana, and then being met by other youths in vehicles. The details of what the girls were subjected to are horrific. The sentencing report from 2002 is found at the foot of this article. It is graphic, and shocking.

Unfortunately, Bilal Skaf's conviction for the attack on their youngest victim, a 16-year old girl, which happened in Gosling Park, Greenacre, on August 12, 2000, was quashed in 2004. It was discovered that during the trial, two jurors had independently gone to the scene of the crime to conduct "their own investigations". As a result, the New South Wales Court of Criminal Appeal overturned the convictions of Bilal Skaf and his younger brother Mohammed. Mohammed Skaf, previously unnamed because he had been a minor, was 17 at the time of the rape.

The victim of the Gosling Park rape attack had been too scared to once again confront her assailants, and at one stage charges were withdrawn. But laws were changed in New South Wales, and these allowed the victim to respond to the court in a retrial using her previous evidence from the 2002 trial. This was read out in question and answer form by a solicitor and a prosecutor.

According to the Melbourne Age, the retrial led to the two brothers being reconvicted of the Gosling Park rape incident in April of this year. 24-year old Bilal Skaf was found guilty on two counts of aggravated sexual intercourse without consent in company. Mohammed Skaf was convicted of being an accessory after the fact.

The two men were already convicted of the other rapes in which they had been involved, and were in prison, but on Friday (July 28), the two men were handed down their sentences. Mohammed Skaf was sentenced to 15 years' jail, with a minimum of seven and a half years to spent incarcerated, for his part in oranising the Gosling Park rape(s).

Jane Mathews, acting NSW Supreme Court judge, sentenced Bilal Skaf to a minimum of eleven years' jail, additional to the 22 years' minimum jail for the other rapes he committed.

Bilal Skaf briefly smiled when Justice Mathews sentenced him. When he was originally convicted in 2002, he had laughed. When he had received his sentence in 2002 he had sworn at the judge.

Justice Mathews said that the attack by 14 men was "cruel, callous and degrading".

Mohammed Skaf had befriended the 16 year old, known in court proceedings as Miss D. She had known him for six months, and her mother knew him. Skaf had suggested that they drive to the city center of Sydney. She went to get in the car for the drive at 9pm, and found two other men, Ibrahim and Michael, already inside the vehicle.

As they drove, the males had been using their mobile phones and conversing in Arabic. Before Miss D had got into the car, Mohammed had been talking to Bilal about the plan. The car was stopped at Gosling Park. The men tried to persuade the teenager to have sex with them, and Mohammed Skaf tried to use various plays to persuade her not to leave the car.

A car and a white van arrived. Mohammed then disappeared. Bilal Skaf tried to get Miss D to "go for a walk" with him, and when she refused he grabbed her by the hair and threw her onto the ground. With up to 14 associates holding the girl down, Bilal Skaf committed vaginal rape, and others digitally penetrated her. When Skaf had done, another man claimed it was his turn and raped her. One man held a gun to her head and kicked her in the stomach.

The girl, described by the judge in the 2002 trial as "exceptionally brave" then fled, and ran across the park to a telephone box. As she was in the phone box, the van drew up and one of the attackers drew a gun, ordering her to get in the van. She was screaming, and when a man came round the corner and walked forward, the gang fled. The man took her to his apartment and she phoned a friend who came to take her home.

The effect of the sentencing upon the two men means that Bilal Skaf will serve at least 32 years' jail for the three gang rape incidents. His earliest possible date for release will be February 11, 2033, when he will be 51. He could serve a maximum of 38 years. Mohammed Skaf will serve a minimum of eighteen and a half years, and will become eligible for parole on July 1, 2019, when he will be 36.

The mother of Miss D said outside the court: "I've spoken to my daughter today. She's very, very happy. She cried, she laughed. She's not here today, so obviously it has affected her to the point where she can't have anything to do with this."

"She'll never forget it but hopefully she'll be able to talk about it," the mother said. "They would not be sitting in jail this long if it was not for the new laws (which allowed Miss D to testify without confronting her assailants) and the media attention."

The nature of the three gang rapes, involving forced oral sex, shocked even prisoners. While Bilal Skaf had been originally confined in Long Bay Correctional Centre, there was a plot by other prisoners to inject him with blood tainted with the HIV virus. As a result, he was transferred to the maximum security Goulburn Gaol.

The dramas did not cease there. While he was residing in Goulburn Super-Max prison, in July 2003, telephone threats were made to the police, saying that if Bilal Skaf was not released within three days, staff at Goulburn Local Court would be shot.

During Skaf's stay in Goulburn, he came into contact with Zeky (Zak) Mallah, (pictured right). In December 2003, Mallah became the first person to be arrested (subsequently acquitted) under new terrorism laws. He served two years in jail for threatening to kill Commonwealth officers, but was acquitted on two charges of preparing for a terrorist act.

Details of Mallah's trial can be found here and here. He had allegedly plotted to shoot up the offices of the ASIO, the nation's intelligence agency, or the Foreign Affairs Department in Sydney, after he was refused a passport to travel to Lebanon in 2002. Mallah now acts as "spokesman" for the brothers.

Zeky Mallah, according to News/com.au and the Courier Mail, stood outside the Supreme Court, and delivered an impassioned eulogy to the two thug rapists. He said: "Bilal Skaf and Mohammed Skaf should be more honoured and respected for the crimes they committed, if they did, because at least these two have not killed any of the victims like the American soldiers have (in Iraq)."

"It is okay to label this young man and his brother as rapists who deserve 55 years more or less according to your judges, which in reality is life imprisonment."

"But it is not okay to label some American soldiers who rape innocent young Iraqi women as American rapists."

A fine example of Muslim logic. Because they did not kill their victims, then Mohammed and Bilal Skaf should be "honoured and respected".

I blame the poor example of the "prophet" for such hideous travesties of logic. Call a rapist paedophile, mass-murdering thief a "messenger of Allah", and you give his followers a green light to condone any atrocity.

Below is the sentencing report from 2002, by Justice Michael Finnane. It contains graphic descriptions of acts of rape and degradation. You have been warned


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In Sydney in 2002, the leader of a group of Lebanese-Australian Muslim gang-rapists was sentenced to 55 years (halved on appeal).

(This is what the 'Mufti of Australia and New Zealand' has his knickers in a knot about...)

1 posted on 10/30/2006 1:22:10 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
While Bilal Skaf had been originally confined in Long Bay Correctional Centre, there was a plot by other prisoners to inject him with blood tainted with the HIV virus.

methinks he will never see the light of day again, one way or the other...
2 posted on 10/30/2006 1:25:26 PM PST by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Fred Nerks

What are the prisons like in Australia? Will this subhuman be getting a taste of his own medicine?


3 posted on 10/30/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I sure hope the Aussies know that vigilantism is no way to cure this cancer.


4 posted on 10/30/2006 1:26:10 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Fred Nerks
one Muslim "spokesman" now saying that the leaders of the [rape] gang should be "honoured and respected"

You figure out if Islam is our friend or our mortal, to-the-last-man-breathing enemy.

5 posted on 10/30/2006 1:27:09 PM PST by Lazamataz (I love you.... but not in a gay way.)
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To: Fred Nerks

16 year old girl verses 14 Mussies and they are brave....One Australian male appears and they run like roaches.


6 posted on 10/30/2006 1:28:02 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: samadams2000
I sure hope the Aussies know that vigilantism is no way to cure this cancer.

Since the authorities refuse to act, I suspect vigilantism is the ONLY way to cure this cancer.

7 posted on 10/30/2006 1:28:03 PM PST by Lazamataz (I love you.... but not in a gay way.)
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To: Fred Nerks; All
The Muslim religion has rendered these people without conscience. There can be no redemption for them and their religion of thuggery, hate and murder. If I had my way, they would all be destroyed.

Just too damned bad that the Crusades era was largely an uncoordinated effort. Had it been, we would all have been saved a lot of trouble.

8 posted on 10/30/2006 1:29:39 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Fred Nerks
"As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it? Perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at the racism by exclusion practised with such a vengeance by our community and cultural institutions."

This idiot thinks we caused the Muslims to be the way they are.

9 posted on 10/30/2006 1:30:19 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Fred Nerks
Another smiling Muslim following his devout religious teachings, Allah be Praised! This type of rape is exceedingly common in France.


10 posted on 10/30/2006 1:30:50 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: davisfh

Just who's keeping those old Crusade outfits anyway??? And how will we be notified?


11 posted on 10/30/2006 1:31:07 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: steel_resolve
...there was a plot by other prisoners to inject him with blood tainted with the HIV virus.

Are they sure it was to be blood?

12 posted on 10/30/2006 1:32:11 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Fred Nerks
But for many Australians, the case of the rape gang led by Bilal Skaf (pictured above left) created nothing but rage and resentment at the brazenness of the perpetrators.

Gee imagine that! Good on the Aussies.

The perps should have been shot down like the mad dogs they emulated!

13 posted on 10/30/2006 1:33:08 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: davisfh
"...for them and their religion of thuggery, hate and murder...."

This needs to be corrected.

"...for them and their CULT of thuggery, hate and murder..."

There. That's better.
14 posted on 10/30/2006 1:34:41 PM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldy go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: Fred Nerks

It must be that Americans are hated for the kindness and respect shown to women. Muslims will tell you they treat their women well. I do not believe it. I believe they are treated in less acceptable fashion than we would treat chattel.


15 posted on 10/30/2006 1:34:57 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Oberon

SCUM.


16 posted on 10/30/2006 1:36:19 PM PST by kjo
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To: Fred Nerks

My thoughts if put into words would surely incur the wrath of the thread moderators.


17 posted on 10/30/2006 1:36:43 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Fred Nerks
"Rape is always something vile, violent and unconscionable"

Not when you belong to the religion of pieces, it's not. This is the same religion that finds it perfectly normal to perform clitoral mutilation on young girls. Why should a little non-consensual sex bother them?
18 posted on 10/30/2006 1:38:37 PM PST by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Lazamataz

Since the PC police will protect the perps, vigilantism is a civic DUTY.


19 posted on 10/30/2006 1:40:03 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: Fred Nerks

Here's hoping that in prison they get to experience what they have done.


20 posted on 10/30/2006 1:45:05 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: kjo
SCUM.

Well, I prefer names less objectionable, but I do confess my remark was in poor taste.

21 posted on 10/30/2006 1:45:46 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: lesser_satan
What are the prisons like in Australia? Will this subhuman be getting a taste of his own medicine?

Due to the population demographics of Australia I wonder if there isn't a larger percentage of white-supremicist inmates than there is in the US? If so, I imagine that with the nature of his crime his stay in "Gaol" might be a rough one. Anyone know for sure?

22 posted on 10/30/2006 1:46:27 PM PST by Gator101
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To: Fred Nerks

Is there any doubt about who we are dealing with? Where are the "moderate" Muslims or have we already hear from them when a "spokesperson" said that the rapist should be honored and respected?


23 posted on 10/30/2006 1:48:55 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Oberon

Not YOU, THEM!


24 posted on 10/30/2006 1:49:07 PM PST by kjo
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To: Fred Nerks

Now I understand the real reason why the Government of Australia passed their gun confiscation laws.

Perhaps it is time to bring back the punishment of impalement for perps like these.


25 posted on 10/30/2006 1:51:36 PM PST by Mack the knife
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To: Fred Nerks

Hang the bastards ....


26 posted on 10/30/2006 1:53:02 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Me thinks a life sentence and a permanent disabling/maiming of their offending body part (s) would be a start in the pursuit of justice for these vile rapist pigs.


27 posted on 10/30/2006 1:54:51 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: DainBramage

let me correct you

the roaches run

may those incarcerated experience the three biggest lies on their first night


28 posted on 10/30/2006 2:01:48 PM PST by himno hero
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To: FormerACLUmember

I wonder how hard he'd cry if I clothslined him?


29 posted on 10/30/2006 2:02:04 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Fred Nerks
I wouldn't give these scum a rat's chance in hell if they are ever released into the general prison population. My only advice to them is that if someone sidles up and suggests it might be a good time to have a shower - don't go.
30 posted on 10/30/2006 2:02:42 PM PST by finnigan2
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To: Spirochete
The leftists, worshipers of multiculturalism, moral relativism and the disease of PCness will lead to the exact opposite that all such jello brains desire. Instead of dealing with the Muslim threat and correcting it at an earlier stage, it will spread until it becomes kill or be killed on a planet wide scale.
31 posted on 10/30/2006 2:06:57 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Fred Nerks
As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it? Perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at the racism by exclusion practised with such a vengeance by our community and cultural institutions."

What a F***ing moron. People like that will end up getting a lot more of us killed in the future than is necessary...

32 posted on 10/30/2006 2:07:35 PM PST by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Fred Nerks
RoR. My patience is running has run out.
33 posted on 10/30/2006 2:11:34 PM PST by piytar
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To: Truth29; All

Can't say we haven't been warned:

Don't turn a blind eye to terror in our midst
Tim Priest, Quadrant, 12 January 2004


The emergence of Middle Eastern crime groups was first observed in NSW in the mid 1990s. Before then, they had been known largely for individual acts of antisocial behaviour and for loose family structures involved in heroin importation and supply as well as motor vehicle theft and conversion.

The one crime that did appear organised before this period was insurance fraud, usually motor vehicle accidents and arson. Because these crimes were largely victimless, they were dealt with by insurance companies and police involvement was limited.

But from these insurance scams, a generation of young criminals emerged to engage in more sophisticated crimes - among them extortion, armed robbery, organised narcotics importation and supply, gun running, organised factory and warehouse break-ins, and car theft and conversion on a vast scale, including the exporting of stolen luxury vehicles to Lebanon and other Middle Eastern countries.

It probably took 20 years for the Chinese to become a dominant force in crime in Sydney. But Middle Eastern crime has taken less than 10 years. So pervasive is Middle Eastern influence on organised crime in Sydney that rival ethnic groups, with the exception of the Asian gangs, have been squeezed out or rendered extinct. The only other crime group to have survived intact are the bikies - although they have now legitimised many of their operations and now make as much money through legal means as they do illegally.

With no organised-crime experience, no gang unit other than the South-East Asian Strike Force, the NSW Police turned against every convention known to Western policing in dealing with organised crime groups. In effect, the Lebanese crime gangs were handed the keys to the city of Sydney.

The most influential of the Middle Eastern crime groups are the Muslim males of Telopea Street, Bankstown, in southwest Sydney. The Telopea Street Boys and their associates have been involved in numerous murders over the past five years - many of them unprovoked attacks on young Australian men for no other reason than the ethnicity of the victims.

They have been involved in all manner of crime on a scale we have never before seen or even contemplated. Ram raids on expensive brand stores in the city are endemic. The theft of expensive motor vehicles known as car-jacking is increasing at an alarming rate. This crime involves gangs of Lebanese or Pacific Islander males finding a luxury motor vehicle parked outside a restaurant or hotel and watching until the occupants return to drive home. The car is followed, the victims assaulted at gunpoint and the vehicle stolen. The vehicles are always worth about $100,000 or more, and it is believed they are taken to warehouses before being shipped interstate or overseas to the Middle East.

The extent to which Middle Eastern crime gangs have moved into the drug market is breathtaking. They are now the main suppliers of cocaine in Sydney and are developing markets in southeastern Queensland and Victoria. They are leading suppliers of heroin in and around the inner city, southwest Sydney and western Sydney.

But what sets the Middle Eastern gangs apart from all other gangs is their propensity to use violence at any time and for any reason. Unlike their Vietnamese counterparts, Middle Eastern crime gangs roam the city and are not confined to Cabramatta or Chinatown. And even more alarming is that the violence is directed mainly against young Australian men and women. It is plain that violent attacks on our young men and women are racial as well as criminal.

Quite often when taking statements from young men attacked by groups of Lebanese males around Darling Harbour, a common theme that emerges is that the violence is racially motivated: the victims are attacked simply because they are Australian.

I wonder whether the inventors of the racial hatred laws introduced during the golden years of multiculturalism ever contemplated the possibility that we, the silent majority, would be the target of racial violence and hatred. I don't remember any race-based charges being laid in conjunction with the gang rapes of southwestern Sydney in 2001, where race was clearly an issue and racial slurs were used to humiliate the victims.

Unbelievably, a publicly funded document produced by the Anti-Discrimination Board, titled The Race for Headlines, was then circulated. It sought to not only cover up race as a motive for the rapes but to criticise any accurate reporting on this matter in the media as racially biased. It worries many operational police that organisations such as the ADB, the Privacy Commission and the Council for Civil Liberties have become unaccountable and push agendas that don't represent the values that this great country was built on.

Many have heard of the horrific problems in France with an unprecedented outbreak of crimes among an estimated 5 million Muslim immigrants. Middle Eastern males now make up 45,000 of the 90,000 inmates in French prisons. There are no-go areas in Paris for police and citizens alike. The rule of law has broken down so badly that when police went to one of these areas recently to round up three Islamic terrorists, they went in armoured vehicles, with heavy weaponry and more than 1,000 armed officers - just to arrest a few suspects.

Why did they need such numbers? Because the threat of terrorist reprisal was minimal compared to the anticipated revolt by thousands of Middle Eastern and North African residents, who have no respect for the rule of law in France and consider intrusions by police and other authorities a declaration of war.

The problems in Paris's Muslim communities are being replicated in Sydney at an alarming rate. Paris has seen an explosion of rapes committed by Middle Eastern males against French women in the past 15 years. The rapes are almost identical to those in Sydney. The rapes are committed not only for sexual gratification: there are also deep racial undertones, along with threats of violence and retribution.

What is more alarming is the identical reaction among some sections of the media and criminologists in France: they downplay the race factor and even gang up on those who try to draw attention to the widening gulf between Middle Eastern youths and the rest of French society.

That is what we are seeing in Australia. The usual suspects come out of their institutions and libraries to downplay and even cover up the growing problem of Middle Eastern crime. Why? Because these same social engineers have attempted to redefine our society. They have experimented with all manner of institutions - from prisons to mental institutions and, recently, policing.

Some of the problems we now see with policing are the result of former NSW police commissioner Peter Ryan's dream of restructuring and retraining the force. The police academy was changed from a training college into a university teaching social sciences and very little else. Constantly, I'd see young police officers emerge from the academy with a view that as police officers they were counsellors, psychologists, marriage guidance experts, social workers and advocates for social change, but with almost no skills in street policing. Their training endangered not only them but also their workmates and the community.

Never mind that policing is about enforcing the rule of law. It's never been about analysing each offender for the root causes of crime. The police enforce the law and protect the community regardless of race, colour or religion. What we have seen in southwest Sydney is ethnic communities being policed selectively. The implications for this are frightening when you look at Paris. The French practised selective policing of a particular community, which is subsequently now out of control.

In February 2001, when I appeared before an inquiry into Cabramatta's crime problem, I gave evidence which at the time attracted the usual claque of ratbags from the ABC and their associates at The Sydney Morning Herald, as well as Sydney's Radio 2UE broadcaster Mike Carlton. I said that Sydney is going to be torn apart by gang warfare the likes of which we have never seen. Last year I was finally proved right, but I take no comfort from that. However, the criticism I received was unprecedented. I was a nutter, a liar, a racist, a disgruntled detective.

Of course, the critics still refuse to concede that we have a problem. They are still clinging to the multicultural theme. To highlight the problems with Middle Eastern communities in Sydney is to tear down the multicultural facade.

The amount of money spent on the multicultural industry beggars belief. It is a lucrative position for many. Governments pour huge money into anything that includes the word multicultural. Indeed, the police department, like other government departments, spends vast amounts on multicultural issues, jobs, education packages, legal advice, public relations and the rest. Having expended large amounts of money on multiculturalism, they are hardly likely to criticise it. Those that feed off multiculturalism are almost certainly not likely to question it.

That groups of Middle Eastern males can roam a city and assault, rob and intimidate at will can no longer be denied or excused. You need only to look at Paris and other European countries that have had mass immigration from Middle Eastern countries to see the sort of problems we can look forward to in years to come. My prediction is that within 10 years Middle Eastern crime groups will have spread and their influence will extend across Australia as they seek to expand their enterprises. There will be no-go areas in southwest Sydney just like there are in Paris.

Only recently I have seen quotes from senior police and retired police who claim that race is not the issue in organised crime. Those statements are stupid and dangerous. Organised crime groups, with the exception of the bikies, are almost always ethnically based - any experienced detective will tell you that. Barring one or two local beach gangs, the days of Anglo-Saxon gangs are all but over.

I also predict that there will be a dramatic rise in gang shootings as rival gangs compete for turf and business. This will be done with almost complete disregard for police attention, as they are aware that the NSW Police Service has to be rebuilt from the ground floor. In the past three years we have seen the phenomenon of drive-by shootings, Los Angeles style. Not only are the increasing incidents a serious cause of concern, but even more so is the use of automatic weapons that spray hundreds of rounds at their targets. This is virtually unprecedented in Australia.

Indeed, the issue has become so serious that some of these Middle Eastern youth who are engaged in organised crime, and who have no regard for our values and way of life, may go a step further and engage in terrorist acts against Australia. The ingredients are there already. It is but a small step from urban terrorism to religious and political terrorism, as we have seen with groups such as the Irish Republican Army, with organised crime often being confused with terrorism.

I don't want to paint a story of doom and gloom. But, as a former policeman, I've seen the destruction that gangs can wreak on innocent citizens who want nothing more than to live in peace. I just hope we can trust the people in government and the police to ensure that we don't lose the values and the rights we have received from past generations.



Tim Priest was a Sydney detective until 2002.


34 posted on 10/30/2006 2:13:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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To: Axenolith
As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it? Perhaps it's time to take a good hard look at the racism by exclusion practised with such a vengeance by our community and cultural institutions."

You beat me to it.

Lets me add, it is the Patty Murray mindset (Senator Patty )Murray said, according to the Vancouver paper, that bin Laden has been "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that."

"How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?" Murray asked.

35 posted on 10/30/2006 2:17:51 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: DainBramage
16 year old girl verses 14 Mussies and they are brave....One Australian male appears and they run like roaches.

No fair saying nasty things about roaches!


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36 posted on 10/30/2006 2:20:32 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Fred Nerks
The effect of the sentencing upon the two men means that Bilal Skaf will serve at least 32 years' jail for the three gang rape incidents.

They should do to him what Muslim's do to women - bury him up to his waist in sand and have people stone him to death. ( Just kidding)

37 posted on 10/30/2006 2:21:01 PM PST by GOPJ (In the War with radical Islam, it's not "for" or "against"-- it's victory or ruin.)
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To: davisfh

Men who are sexually repressed and disrespect women WILL turn violent. So you have millions of young men who are violent and then they are given an enemy to turn their frustation on, the U.S....no wonder. It's almost like this was the grand plan.


38 posted on 10/30/2006 2:24:01 PM PST by Hildy (Some are born to sweet delight; some are born to endless night.)
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Going the way of France...


39 posted on 10/30/2006 2:26:53 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Fred Nerks
Yes, we have been warned, but like too many in your excellent post and prediction of Australia's future, many cannot or will not comprehend the knife at our collective throats. Only when the arterial blood is jetting before their eyes may some understand, but others will say that they deserved it.

It is time to wake up and make our government wake up or rely on someone like the Chinese to deal with this problem after the USA has faded from world leadership.

40 posted on 10/30/2006 2:29:46 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Fred Nerks

I sure hope the big burly men of the Australian prisons have smiles on their faces when they teach these sadistic animals what rape means.

For 55 solid years.


41 posted on 10/30/2006 2:39:15 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Muslim Rape Gang Leader Smiles As He Is Sentenced

He's looking forward to his new boyfriend/cellmate.

42 posted on 10/30/2006 2:41:22 PM PST by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: GOPJ

No - bury this dirtbag up to his waist UPSIDE DOWN. As he slowly suffocates, let him be sodomized to death.

ROPMA!

):^(


43 posted on 10/30/2006 2:42:50 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Fred Nerks
As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge. Where has this hatred come from? How have we contributed to it?

Typical of the liberal spinmeisters. Analyze, analyze and in the end say it really isn't their fault but the fault of law abiding citizens. Who gives a rip where the hate comes from? The crimes need to be punished. That's called justice and not revenge.

44 posted on 10/30/2006 2:50:52 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Capt. Tom

That's why I voted for Patty Murray times, in the last election.


45 posted on 10/30/2006 2:54:47 PM PST by mike70
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To: Fred Nerks

Kill the bastards..............slowly.


46 posted on 10/30/2006 2:55:07 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Fred Nerks
As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge..."

I've heard this repeated as if it were some sort of liberal received truth - in fact there is nothing wrong with retribution in the exaction of justice. If it is systematically denied that aspect does not evaporate, it devolves to the hands of the citizens. Vigilantism is not some weird Western U.S. phenomenon, it is nearly universal in history within societies too naive or too corrupt to employ retribution in justice. It is the luxury of a soft and decadent society to pretend that it may be done away with. IMHO.

47 posted on 10/30/2006 2:57:55 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Fred Nerks
The lads liked to tell the lucky lady that she was about to be "f$%^&ed Leb-style"

Wonder how Bubba will tell The Smiler he's about to get it in the big house??

48 posted on 10/30/2006 3:05:24 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Fred Nerks
As Monroe Reimers wrote to the Sydney Morning Herald: "As terrible as the crime was, we must not confuse justice with revenge.

Justice would have been turning the "young lads" into Eunuchs, and sending them to Saudi Arabia, or other Muslim/Arabian land, to Guard some rich old man's harem.

49 posted on 10/30/2006 3:06:31 PM PST by El Gato
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To: steel_resolve
The lads liked to tell the lucky lady that she was about to be "fucked Leb-style" and that she deserved it because she was an "Australian pig"


....Muslims having sex with pigs?!
50 posted on 10/30/2006 4:00:00 PM PST by SeeSalt
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