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Evangelical Leader Accused of Gay Affair Resigns
Associated Press ^ | 11/2/0y | Catherine Tsai

Posted on 11/02/2006 4:52:59 PM PST by jamese777

The Rev. Ted Haggard resigned as president of the influential National Association of Evangelicals on Thursday after being accused of having a sexual affair with a gay man.

Haggard also stepped down as head of his 14,000-member New Life Church pending an investigation by a church panel, saying he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by the accusations."

"I am voluntarily stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity," Haggard said in a written statement. "I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date. In the interim, I will seek both spiritual advice and guidance."

Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

Mike Jones, 49, of Denver told the AP that Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. His allegations were first aired on KHOW-AM radio in Denver.

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1 posted on 11/02/2006 4:53:01 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

If we're all supposed to celebrate diversity and all that, why does he feel compelled to resign?

Why did Mc Greevey resign, if he's proud to be a gay American?

Why did Mark Foley feel compelled to let the world know that he is gay after resigning because of his bad behavior?


If being gay and in an alternative lifestyle is cause for celebration, then why is it a factor in a case like this?


2 posted on 11/02/2006 5:03:56 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Because Ted Haggard is a "VERY" influential conservative Christian. Egad. Not good.


3 posted on 11/02/2006 5:09:06 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: spacejunkie

Does being accused make him guilty? I'm not so sure of that.


4 posted on 11/02/2006 5:10:57 PM PST by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: jamese777

but did he lie about it under oath?


5 posted on 11/02/2006 5:11:52 PM PST by sappy
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To: jamese777
According to this article, it appears its the result of the brawl between conservativism and liberalism ongoing in New Life Church and the Neo-Evangelical Association (NAE).
6 posted on 11/02/2006 5:12:45 PM PST by Alia
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Are you serious or being sarcastic? This man is supposed to be a Christian and a pastor. This is not a lifestyle that is compatible with scriptures and Ted is a very influential Christian who no doubt preaches and teaches that homosexuality is sin.


7 posted on 11/02/2006 5:14:39 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: jamese777

timing of this questionable.

This is an excerpt from The Wall Street Journal. Complete article available at http://www.wsj.com.

By Elizabeth Bernstein
Wall Street Journal, Weekend Journal
13 August 2004





The Rev. Ted Haggard, President of the National Association of Evangelicals and senior pastor of New Life Church, Colorado Springs, Colo. Mr. Haggard founded New Life with 20 members in 1985, after having a vision of the church while fasting for three days atop Pikes Peak. Today, the church has 11,000 members, and is building one of the largest church sanctuaries in the state. Mr. Haggard, president of the 30 million-member National Evangelical Association, speaks nationally against abortion and in favor of the war in Iraq, as well as other topics.

The weekly conference call with the White House lets Mr. Haggard, 48, give the administration "the pulse of the evangelical world," he says. One recent Monday, he says, the discussion centered on Sen. Kerry's post-convention polling (participants were delighted there was no large "bump"). "It's useful to communicate," he says.

Mr. Haggard is also trying to boost evangelical voter participation. On Sept. 19, he will co-host a two-hour broadcast encouraging viewers to make it to the polls and to call their congressional representatives in support of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban same-sex marriages. The show will be carried on three Christian television networks and as many as 1,500 Christian radio stations.

Meanwhile, Mr. Haggard makes no secret of his support of President Bush. Of the three framed pictures hanging outside his office, two are of himself and the president. (The other is of himself and Mel Gibson, who pre-screened "The Passion of Christ" at a conference organized by Mr. Haggard.)


8 posted on 11/02/2006 5:18:01 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: jamese777
I sincerely hope he is innocent, but for him to step down from the leadership of his church and go under the submission of overseers tells me there is something more to the story that he hasn't yet revealed. Sad if true.
9 posted on 11/02/2006 5:18:19 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Stepan12
Haggard, a married father of five, denied the allegations in an interview with KUSA-TV late Wednesday: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."

Does being accused make him guilty? I'm not so sure of that.

No, evidence would clear him or confirm his guilt.

All we know thus far is someone is lying and that the Homosexual Addict Democrats have been looking for scalps amongst the Republican flock.

10 posted on 11/02/2006 5:19:07 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: Alia
Neo-Evangelical Association (NAE)

>And it's National Evangelical Association. But you knew that.

If one doesn't want to include evangelical Catholics or pentecostal/charismatics in the tent of "evangelicals," one begins to wonder what's left. Oh, I know, "the faithful remnant."

Finally, I have no idea how the "fight" between conservatism and liberalism in New Life Church and/or the NAE would have any result in an accusation of a homosexual affair. Perhaps you have inside information.

11 posted on 11/02/2006 5:20:02 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Ellesu

Who cares if the timing is questionable. If the guy is gay and a pastor and "fighting against gay marriage" he is sending the world he message that "Christians are hypocrits". Timing is never good for people being two-faced and having secret lives.


12 posted on 11/02/2006 5:22:11 PM PST by sonserae
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To: af_vet_1981
No, evidence would clear him or confirm his guilt. All we know thus far is someone is lying and that the Homosexual Addict Democrats have been looking for scalps amongst the Republican flock

I can't help but wondering if there's some sort of penis brigade that Rush Limbaugh talked about to sully Republicans before the election. Also, what congressional office is this fellow running for? /sarc

13 posted on 11/02/2006 5:27:10 PM PST by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: jamese777

Prayers for his congregation as they sort this out.
The church will always be under attack by the enemy and this is one area the church is vulnerable.


14 posted on 11/02/2006 5:27:37 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: sonserae

Sounds like you are convinced it is a true story, I'm not. Agree with you if it turns out to be factual, but this close to the election, I smell a RAT.


15 posted on 11/02/2006 5:27:46 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Stepan12

Yes, there is a vast homosexual addict conspiracy and yes they want to affect the elections. Did you really think we were not at war with them ?


16 posted on 11/02/2006 5:34:14 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (Waiting for Samson)
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To: the808bass
The link I provided in my earlier post has a great many details which illumined me. Might you, too.

I don't believe the prostitute; I think Haggard is being lied about.

17 posted on 11/02/2006 5:38:12 PM PST by Alia
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To: jamese777

Somewhere, I detect the filthy fingers of Mike Rogers...


18 posted on 11/02/2006 5:46:42 PM PST by RadioCirca1970 (F.U. D.U!)
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To: Alia

I think that none of us knows, one way or the other. It's probably the best thing to just say he has been accused and wait before declaring anything.

There have been some cases like this one, where the person ended up having done what he was accused of. It's just possible that it's all true, and I'm going to wait and see on this one.

It's obviously politically timed, either way, of course, but it's best to just see what happens.


19 posted on 11/02/2006 5:47:34 PM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: jamese777

I wonder if he shared this guy with Paul Crouch.


20 posted on 11/02/2006 5:48:40 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Pro Evolution, Pro Stem Cell Research, Pro Science, Pro Free Thought)
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To: Stepan12
Does being accused make him guilty? I'm not so sure of that.

Resigning takes me a step closer to believing it.

21 posted on 11/02/2006 5:53:08 PM PST by TankerKC (I Predict that over 50% of the Major Party Candidates Will Lose on Election Day!)
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To: sonserae

Again, you are making the assumption that the accusations are true.

Making that assumption is what the liberals and the LameStreamMedia always hope for, because in their agenda, as Rush says so often, its the severity of the charge, not the accuracy of the evidence that matters.

It should not be a stretch to suspect the possibility (possible, not sure) that the accuser may (I said "may") be part of the libs agenda to supress the votes of the "values-voters", because the Foley story is losing steam and now Kerry's hoof-and-mouth disease is acting up again.


22 posted on 11/02/2006 6:04:38 PM PST by Wuli
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To: TankerKC
Just to clarify.

1. He resigned as President of the Evangelical Association.

2. He placed himself on Administrative Leave as Pastor of the Church until the matter is settled.

I believe the administrative leave was the correct move for a Pastor who cares for the welfare of his congregation.
23 posted on 11/02/2006 6:10:46 PM PST by MP5SD
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To: jamese777

Wow - I'll give him the benefit of doubt, and if there is some truth behind it, and he seeks help, I'll forgive him too.


24 posted on 11/02/2006 6:14:14 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: MineralMan
Yours is my standard response to matters like these.

But not 5 days before an election.

25 posted on 11/02/2006 6:16:29 PM PST by Alia
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To: Ellesu
two-hour broadcast encouraging viewers to make it to the polls and to call their congressional representatives in support of the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would ban same-sex marriages.

Sounds like it could be a setup. How can he prove his innocense if he is? It's his word against another unless the gay guy has film.

26 posted on 11/02/2006 6:42:22 PM PST by WVNan
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To: jamese777
Haggard paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years.

Well this would be very easy to have the queer specify dates and then see if Haggard had alibis for those dates.

27 posted on 11/02/2006 7:33:35 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: jamese777

Isn't this faggot one of the so-called "evangelicals" to embrace Global Warming? If so, I hope he rots.


28 posted on 11/02/2006 7:37:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
Answering my own question...YES, the "Rev" Ted Haggard is one of the fraudulent "evangelicals" who embraced "global warming" and declared in October 2004 that mankind has "a sacred responsibility to steward the Earth and not a license to abuse the creation of which we are a part." Haggard called the environment "a values issue." James Dobson and Chuck Colson said that Haggard had circulated a draft paper calling for the Bush administration to support mandatory limits on carbon dioxide emissions.

I hope this commie faggot fraud rots in hell.

29 posted on 11/02/2006 7:44:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: jamese777

The funny thing is that Haggard was both a fag and a leftie tree hugger...why is the left eating one of their own, their own little mole within the "Christian Right"? Dumb move.


30 posted on 11/02/2006 7:45:48 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813
I hope this commie faggot fraud rots in hell.

I can just feel the Christian love radiating from the goodness of your heart.

31 posted on 11/02/2006 7:56:14 PM PST by Diverdogz
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If we're all supposed to celebrate diversity and all that, why does he feel compelled to resign?

Probably just to protect the church from being drug through the mud with him.

32 posted on 11/02/2006 7:59:29 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

If this is true, then, Denny Hastert must resign.


33 posted on 11/02/2006 8:00:23 PM PST by no dems (Duncan Hunter for Prez / Tony Snow for VEEP in '08)
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To: dmw
I sincerely hope he is innocent, but for him to step down from the leadership of his church and go under the submission of overseers tells me there is something more to the story that he hasn't yet revealed.

Not necessarily. He may well have just wanted to spare the church being dragged through the mud with him.

34 posted on 11/02/2006 8:00:48 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

I sure pray that is the case, I really do.


35 posted on 11/02/2006 8:04:15 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: no dems

Ha!


36 posted on 11/02/2006 8:06:00 PM PST by AmishDude (Mwahahahahahahahaha -- official evil laugh of the North American Union)
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To: montag813
Are you always this nonjudgmental? /Sarc
37 posted on 11/02/2006 8:07:57 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: jamese777

I can understand why he'd step down for the investigation to have the appearance of propiety. Just because a man is accused does not mean he is guilty.


38 posted on 11/02/2006 8:10:18 PM PST by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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To: BLS

"I can understand why he'd step down for the investigation to have the appearance of propiety. Just because a man is accused does not mean he is guilty."
I disagree. Resigning is a cut and run strategy. It makes a person appear guilty even if they are innocent. The manly (or womanly) thing to do is stand and fight.


39 posted on 11/02/2006 8:13:45 PM PST by jamese777
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To: montag813

"I hope this commie faggot fraud rots in hell."


It warms my heart that the Lord is not with you in wishing ANYONE goes to hell.


40 posted on 11/02/2006 8:23:56 PM PST by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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To: montag813

"Faggot"? So quick to judge.


41 posted on 11/02/2006 8:24:14 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: jamese777

"I disagree. Resigning is a cut and run strategy. It makes a person appear guilty even if they are innocent. The manly (or womanly) thing to do is stand and fight."


But if he stayed on, how could the investigation be seen as fair?


42 posted on 11/02/2006 8:25:10 PM PST by BLS (You'll never know why you're alive until you know what you would die for.)
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To: montag813
I hope this commie faggot fraud rots in hell

You need to be careful how you talk on FR. That kind of reactionary nastiness isn't taken well by Freepers in good standing.

43 posted on 11/02/2006 8:31:08 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo
"Faggot"? So quick to judge.

I already despise this phony for his endorsement of "global warming". He has used his position amongst "evangelical leaders" to espouse radical crypto-Socialist environmentalist views.

44 posted on 11/02/2006 8:31:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

I too disagree with his position on global warming. That's no reason to so quickly judge him as a "faggot." If it turns out that he was involved in a gay relationship, I too will join the chorus against his hypocricy. But for now it's just an allegation. There's no evidence against him at this point....


45 posted on 11/02/2006 8:38:48 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: montag813
The funny thing is that Haggard was both a fag and a leftie tree hugger...why is the left eating one of their own, their own little mole within the "Christian Right"? Dumb move.

Probably because he's not "one of their own," his position on global warming notwithstanding. As for environmentalism, it is self-evident that God wants us to be good stewards of his creation. The fact that the enviro-whackos take this too far does not negate the fact that we have a responsibility to be good stewards of nature.

46 posted on 11/02/2006 8:41:31 PM PST by the808bass
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To: jamese777
The manly (or womanly) thing to do is stand and fight.

Haggard resigned from the NAE and took a leave of absence from his congregation. It would be unnecessarily hard on his congregation for him to be in the pulpit every week and have them wondering every week what the real story was. If he does not fight the charge while on a leave of absence, I think you have an argument. As it currently stands, I think it was a easily defensible response on the Rev. Haggard's part.

47 posted on 11/02/2006 8:44:28 PM PST by the808bass
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To: montag813
mankind has "a sacred responsibility to steward the Earth and not a license to abuse the creation of which we are a part."

You quote that like it's a damning quote. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

48 posted on 11/02/2006 8:45:50 PM PST by the808bass
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To: montag813
"James Dobson and Chuck Colson said that Haggard had circulated a draft paper calling for the Bush administration to support mandatory limits on carbon dioxide emissions."
__________________________________________________________

Then I guess Rev. Haggard is "lying" again.

From a Washington Post article --

    In a written statement yesterday, Haggard denied reports that the NAE had circulated a draft paper calling for the Bush administration to support mandatory limits on carbon dioxide emissions.

    "Allow me to confirm at the outset that the NAE is not circulating any official document on the environment. We are not considering a position on global warming. We are not advocating for specific legislation or government mandates," Haggard said. His statement added that the NAE's executive committee recently passed a motion "recognizing the ongoing debate" on global warming and "the lack of consensus among the evangelical community on this issue."


49 posted on 11/02/2006 9:49:43 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: jamese777

Phil 2:1-11

1If you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and purpose. 3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.

5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.


50 posted on 11/02/2006 9:54:53 PM PST by uptoolate (Their 'innocent' civilian is their next suicide bomber)
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