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AWOL Soldiers Reconsider Return to U.S.
ABC.com ^ | Nov 4, 2006 | BRETT BARROUQUERE

Posted on 11/05/2006 5:01:25 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOUISVILLE, Ky. Nov 4, 2006 (AP)— Since going to Canada to avoid another deployment to Iraq, Corey Glass has considered returning to the United States. But after hearing that a fellow former soldier who surrendered to the military and was ordered to return to his unit instead of being discharged, Glass may not return at all.

"They're not going to win the hearts and minds like that," said Glass, 24, who signed on with the Indiana National Guard in 2002.

Kyle Snyder, a one-time combat engineer who joined the military in 2003, disappeared Wednesday, a day after surrendering at Fort Knox and 18 months after fleeing to Vancouver instead of redeploying to Iraq.

Snyder, 23, of Colorado Springs, Colo., said a deal had been reached for a discharge, but he found out he would be returned to his unit at Fort Leonard Wood, Mo.

His troubles are complicating efforts for those among the 220 American soldiers who fled to Canada and want to return to the United States, according to lawyers, soldiers and anti-war activists.

"Nobody's going to come back from Canada anymore," said James Fennerty, a Chicago-based attorney who represents Snyder and other AWOL soldiers.

Several soldiers who went to Canada have said they don't want to return to Iraq. Sgt. Patrick Hart, who deserted the Fort Campbell, Ky.-based 101st Airborne Division in August 2005, a month before his second deployment, said he felt misled about the reasons for the war.

"How can I go over there if I don't believe in the cause? I still consider myself a soldier, but I can't do that," said Hart, a Buffalo, N.Y., native who served more than nine years in the military.

"The whole story behind it, it all feels like a big lie," Glass said. "I ain't fighting for no lie."

Fennerty said he reached a deal with the Army allowing Snyder, a private with the 94th Engineer Battalion, to receive an other-than-honorable discharge.

It's a deal similar to one Darrell Anderson, a 24-year-old Iraq war veteran, received in October. After three days at Fort Knox, Anderson, who has denounced the war as "illegal" and "immoral," was released to his family in Lexington, then discharged.

But Snyder ended up at a bus station in Louisville, with orders to go to St. Louis, then Fort Leonard Wood. Snyder, who said the brutality of what he saw happening to civilians in Iraq prompted him to desert, left with an anti-war activist instead of going back to the post.

Gini Sinclair, a Fort Knox spokeswoman, declined to address Snyder's case. But she said deserters who turn themselves in are automatically returned to their units if the unit is in the United States at the time of surrender. Once reunited with the unit, the commander there decides what becomes of the soldier, Sinclair said.

When a soldier surrenders at Fort Knox and is sent to his unit, he is either put on a plane or a bus, sometimes alone, she said.

"In some cases, they will be escorted," Sinclair said. "I don't know what decides if that happens."

That policy, and the question of whether an AWOL soldier can reach a deal that trumps it, is causing consternation among soldiers.

"After what they did to him, I don't see anybody going back," said Glass, a Fairmount, Ind., native who is currently in Toronto.

Some are seeking refugee status in Canada. Hart, who was joined in Toronto by his wife and their 3-year-old son, served time in Bosnia in the early 1990s, became a reserve, then went to Iraq after returning to active duty. The idea of returning to the United States is appealing to Hart, because he would like to see family and friends.

"I could see going back under some kind of amnesty program or something like that," Hart said. "But I don't trust them. My enemy isn't foreign now. It's domestic."


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awol; awolsoldier; canada; coreyglass; glass; goodriddance; iraq; scumbags; traitors
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These scum should have their citizenship revoked. I don't want them back, stay away.
1 posted on 11/05/2006 5:01:27 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Well there is always Levenworth


2 posted on 11/05/2006 5:03:10 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

COWARDS...........they want to suck off the teat of Democracy but want YOU to defend them.

Meadow Muffin


3 posted on 11/05/2006 5:05:05 PM PST by rwgal
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"But I don't trust them. My enemy isn't foreign now. It's domestic."

What? So, he's at war with Canada now?


4 posted on 11/05/2006 5:05:12 PM PST by KingKongCobra
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"They're not going to win the hearts and minds like that," said Glass, 24, who signed on with the Indiana National Guard in 2002.

They're not gonna win your heart or mind, but they're gonna own your ass.

Glass reneged on a contract-- he took from the Guard and didn't fulfill his commitment... and he's worried about hearts and minds?

I say let his unit administer the punishment.

And while we're at it, lets impose some sanctions on Canada that make them think twice about harboring fugitives.

5 posted on 11/05/2006 5:07:00 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he Invented Global Warming)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"They're not going to win the hearts and minds like that," said Glass, 24, who signed on with the Indiana National Guard in 2002.

Right. Treating deserters as deserters is obscene. Hey, stay where you are idiot. You belong there.
6 posted on 11/05/2006 5:07:15 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

If Canada wants them, they are welcome to them.


7 posted on 11/05/2006 5:08:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Several soldiers who went to Canada have said they don't want to return to Iraq. Sgt. Patrick Hart, who deserted the Fort Campbell, Ky.-based 101st Airborne Division in August 2005, a month before his second deployment, said he felt misled about the reasons for the war.

Speechless


8 posted on 11/05/2006 5:10:12 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: IncPen

Can we put bounties out on them?


9 posted on 11/05/2006 5:12:57 PM PST by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglÚs)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

This isn't even similar to Vietnam. There is no draft, the military is voluntary. Furthermore, deaths in Iraq are much less than they were in Vietnam. If these people were against going to war, they shouldn't have become part of the military. It isn't as though they didn't have a choice.


10 posted on 11/05/2006 5:15:22 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The EU is opposed to Saddam Hussein's death sentence.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"...Glass may not return at all."

Geeez. That just breaks my heart. America needs all the cowards she can get.

sarc/off

11 posted on 11/05/2006 5:15:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Osama "Pee Did He?" bin Laden says! "Vote DemocRAT or Die!!!")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Only one way to "win hearts and minds"....something CUT & RUN COWARDS know squat about. If this POS returns, he should immediately face court-martial and firing squad.


12 posted on 11/05/2006 5:16:07 PM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I agree completely. Why do we want them back? Because they're homesick? Tough sh!t.


13 posted on 11/05/2006 5:16:16 PM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Just leave and never come back. That is punishment enough.


15 posted on 11/05/2006 5:17:15 PM PST by Outrance
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It's a deal similar to one Darrell Anderson, a 24-year-old Iraq war veteran, received in October. After three days at Fort Knox, Anderson, who has denounced the war as "illegal" and "immoral," was released to his family in Lexington, then discharged.

The Army is probably just letting them go because they don't want to give this scum the publicity they crave. I think it's a mistake. They're still getting publicity.

Deserters should rot in prison.

16 posted on 11/05/2006 5:17:23 PM PST by SIDENET (Is it too early for flapjacks?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Kyle Snyder, 23, right, is a Colorado Springs, Colo., soldier who fled to Canada rather than return to Iraq on Oct. 31, 2006, in Louisville, Ky., as his attorney James Fennerty , left, looks on. (AP Photo / Brian Bohannon)

Kyle Snyder, a one-time combat engineer who joined the military in 2003, disappeared Wednesday, a day after surrendering at Fort Knox and 18 months after fleeing to Vancouver instead of redeploying to Iraq.

17 posted on 11/05/2006 5:17:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

None of them should ever be allowed back... unless it's in chains. F@#% 'em all.


18 posted on 11/05/2006 5:18:18 PM PST by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

It's their own fault. No one forced them to join the military.


19 posted on 11/05/2006 5:18:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I could see going back under some kind of amnesty program

A coward on all fronts. He will only come back to the US if he gets amnesty??? After deserting during wartime??

Firing squad. On Pay-per-view. I'd pony up $20.

20 posted on 11/05/2006 5:19:03 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Corey Glass seems like a regular 25-year-old; he likes skateboarding, grill cheese sandwiches and Quentin Tarantino movies; he doesn't enjoy illegally occupying middle eastern countries.

Glass spent five months in Iraq as a sergeant with the United States National Guard, before becoming a 'war-resister'. He left the army, lived underground in the U.S. for eight months and then came to Canada in August, claiming refugee status. On October 19, Glass will speak in Fredericton about why he refuses to fight.

"When I joined the national guard, they told me the only way I would be in combat is if there were troops occupying the United States," said Corey Glass in a phone interview from Toronto, where he is searching for an apartment. "I signed up to defend people and do humanitarian work filling sandbags if there was a hurricane; I should have been in New Orleans, not Iraq."


21 posted on 11/05/2006 5:19:30 PM PST by kcvl
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To: bnelson44

"The US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter," said UN Chief Kofi Annan during a 2004 interview with the BBC.


Corey Glass never personally witnessed human rights violations during his service but he "heard stories from people coming back from duty."


22 posted on 11/05/2006 5:20:56 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

How many got to use this excuse when they thought they were joining a fighting Military, instead of a catering service for the Clinton Travel Office


23 posted on 11/05/2006 5:22:42 PM PST by digger48
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity


Ditto.


24 posted on 11/05/2006 5:24:14 PM PST by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Ingtar

26 posted on 11/05/2006 5:25:25 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he Invented Global Warming)
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To: Ingtar

Forget the bounty.....

Pay my expenses, and I'll glady go and hunt these cowards down.

Semper Fi


27 posted on 11/05/2006 5:25:28 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Stay in Canada you vermin. I would feel sick to know other people were going and dying in my place. Disgusting filth.

As another poster said, you can have a little understanding if there was a draft, but this is the worst kind of dodging -- taking the perks while the going is easy, but once it gets rough -- hightailing it out of the country.


28 posted on 11/05/2006 5:28:16 PM PST by rom
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
These scum should have their citizenship revoked. I don't want them back, stay away.

Exactly! They want to come back to the US and reap the rewards of liberty given to us by men who bravely served and sacrificed for their country in time of war. They chose Canada, so they can rot there for all I care.

29 posted on 11/05/2006 5:28:46 PM PST by Elyse
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

No deposit no return!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 11/05/2006 5:29:31 PM PST by GregB (Please pray for my grandchildren,Anna and Jacob!!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

We have extradition treaties with Canada. We should use them to arrest these DESERTERS and bring them back here to make big rocks into little rocks for the rest of their ignorant, cowardly lives.


31 posted on 11/05/2006 5:31:36 PM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

At least make him pay back all of the money uncle sam has paid him, plus interest, before letting him back in.


32 posted on 11/05/2006 5:33:49 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: IncPen

Hi IncPen... Hey... how in the heck to I put a photo in my postings?

Many Thanks for any help!


33 posted on 11/05/2006 5:35:21 PM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: kcvl

What is it about growing that little tuft of beard under one's lower lip that proclaims oneself to be a total jerk?

Seen it many times.


36 posted on 11/05/2006 5:39:51 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"I could see going back under some kind of amnesty program or something like that,"

Apply for Mexican citizenship, scramble across the border, amnesty is waiting for you after the mid term election

37 posted on 11/05/2006 5:43:57 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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Must be part of the military that only joined to get free education, but when it comes to defending their country, they want out, unlike the true heroes that remain in Iraq and even reenlist when they don't have to. These AWOL soldiers are thankfully a minority, I call them cut and Run Kerry types.


38 posted on 11/05/2006 5:49:54 PM PST by LegalEagle61 (You have 2 choices vote republican or whine about how bad the country is when the liberals take over)
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To: navyguy

see your FR mail...


39 posted on 11/05/2006 5:53:07 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he Invented Global Warming)
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To: elcid1970
Justin Timberlake (former almost Mr. Britney Spears) does it so I guess they are trying to be a total clueless fool like him?!
40 posted on 11/05/2006 5:54:32 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

All they have to do is wait for another Democratic administration to get elected.


42 posted on 11/05/2006 6:07:55 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

They can still in Canada we don't need those cowards coming back to the U.S.


43 posted on 11/05/2006 6:32:08 PM PST by YoungSoutherner (It's a great time to be a southerner)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Meant to put they can stay in Canada.


44 posted on 11/05/2006 6:32:50 PM PST by YoungSoutherner (It's a great time to be a southerner)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Fugg'n POGUES! HEll they are worse than POGUES!


45 posted on 11/05/2006 6:59:28 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"Nobody's going to come back from Canada anymore," said James Fennerty, a Chicago-based attorney who represents Snyder and other AWOL soldiers.

There's good news every day if you look for it.

46 posted on 11/05/2006 7:03:39 PM PST by TigersEye ("Everywhere I go there's a Predator in tow, life goes on without me!")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If he does he should return directly to a jail cell.


47 posted on 11/05/2006 7:08:57 PM PST by veryconernedamerican
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
He needs to be shot for cowardliness. Who gives a rats butt if they don't come back from Canada. They should never be allowed to come back except to be put in jail. He is a yellow belly coward. COWARD!!!!!!! I WILL SCREAM IT FROM THE HIGH HEAVENS - COWARD!!! Not a man. A running coward. I hope he rots in hell. He does not deserve to be called a soldier or man. He is a coward. As for the stupid, liberal attorney, go join him.
48 posted on 11/05/2006 7:12:04 PM PST by RetiredArmy (ANYONE who votes for the Abortion Democrats are enemies of the Republic, and ME!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Who want to win your heart and mind deserter?

STF in Canada till hell freezes over. We dont want you back.


49 posted on 11/05/2006 7:17:35 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
keep your chicken sh#t, pussy genes in Canada... better yet..move to france.

oh and yeah it's real easy for me to say that.

If he comes back he should get a one way ticket to Tikrit or Fallujah. I think a good 60 day stretch of convoy duty and pulling point on patrol should about do the trick.

In fact he should just DO HIS JOB.

50 posted on 11/05/2006 7:20:31 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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