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Could our big brains come from Neanderthals?
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Tue Nov 7, 2006 | Anon

Posted on 11/07/2006 7:27:55 PM PST by Pharmboy

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They also may be responsible for the Democrat Party.
1 posted on 11/07/2006 7:27:59 PM PST by Pharmboy
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Roast duck with mango salsa ping...


2 posted on 11/07/2006 7:29:22 PM PST by Pharmboy (Vote American, not Democrat.)
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considered more primitive, with robust bones but a smaller intellects than modern humans.

Yep, does sound like a Dem specimen for sure.

3 posted on 11/07/2006 7:31:24 PM PST by speedy
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They currently reside in France if I'm not mistaken...


4 posted on 11/07/2006 7:32:32 PM PST by kinoxi
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And the only way they could have provided that gift would have been by interbreeding, the team at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute and the University of Chicago said.

Well if they interbred they weren't different speicies at all.

5 posted on 11/07/2006 7:34:23 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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Considering the election results of this night, I’m not sure just how big our brains are. Or, if big brains mean anything.


6 posted on 11/07/2006 7:37:36 PM PST by doc1019
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Your comment - Considering the election results of this night, I’m not sure just how big our brains are.

From the article - They noted that this D allele is very common in Europe, where Neanderthals lived, and more rare in Africa, where they did not.

I may get myself banned for saying this, but consider where the "D Allele" is uncommon, and where the ancestral home of many of the Rat voters is.

7 posted on 11/07/2006 7:43:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Considering the election results of this night, I’m not sure just how big our brains are.

Yeah, it's a bad night, doc. But two years of the Dems running the House can only help the GOP in 2008. Unless the Rats plan to keep Pelosi under wraps for two more years.

8 posted on 11/07/2006 7:44:19 PM PST by speedy
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Good post, thanks. (We Are Neanderthals)


9 posted on 11/07/2006 7:44:47 PM PST by blam
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They weren't.

The entire proposition is a canard.


10 posted on 11/07/2006 7:46:35 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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Race And Human Evolution

From Publishers Weekly

This uneven volume from University of Michigan anthropologists Wolpoff and Caspari defends Wolpoff's theory that human evolution resulted from long-term "multiregional evolution" rather than via a relatively recent descent from a single "Eve" in Africa. The authors largely base their case on the fossil record, which contains evidence that, they contend, doesn't jibe with the Eve theory, which was derived primarily through DNA analysis by molecular biologists. Their argument is well-reasoned but some of the basic concepts, including that of multiregional evolution, could use a clearer explication. Technical material abounds, much of it likely to prove difficult for the general reader. And, while Wolpoff receives top authorial billing, the text is presented mostly in the first-person singular from Caspari's perspective, an intrusive stylistic device. There's much to ponder here, though, and the middle chapters, which place paleoanthropology in a historical and political context, are sound and informative. Illustrations."

11 posted on 11/07/2006 7:51:49 PM PST by blam
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The entire proposition is a canard.

"Canard" is French for "duck," as in "roast duck with mango salsa."

I don't know if our ancestors interbred with Neanderthals, but I think that all the DNA studies so far have turned up negative for any Neanderthal DNA surviving in living human beings. The Neanderthals lived in a restricted area of the planet--Europe and part of the Middle East--and there were other human populations elsewhere. How can they tell the smart gene didn't originate in one of the other groups?

12 posted on 11/07/2006 7:56:09 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Well if they interbred they weren't different species at all.

While we did learn in school that different species don't interbreed, that's not always the case. Different species don't typically interbreed, but there are examples where that does happen. Horse and donkey = (sterile) mule. And several years ago two different species of siamangs (a type of Asian ape) interbred and had viable offspring. The unique thing about these siamangs is that the two species had different numbers of chromosomes.

13 posted on 11/07/2006 7:59:12 PM PST by Pharmboy (Vote American, not Democrat.)
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"The entire proposition is a canard."

I'm not quite sure, Ben. We have genes and features in our bodies that are more at home in cats or birds than in us. How that happens is difficult to explain, but it seems to be true.

14 posted on 11/07/2006 7:59:41 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If the Supreme Court has "Judges for Life," why is there any question about Roe vs Wade?)
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Ah -- as for cats . . . . those pesky pussies maanged to transfer some genes over by way of virus.

Meow!


15 posted on 11/07/2006 8:09:42 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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The unique thing about these siamangs is that the two species had different numbers of chromosomes.

That is impressive actually. I wonder what the chromosome counts are for lions and tigers which can interbreed for make ligers (absolutely HUGE cats) and tigons?

16 posted on 11/07/2006 8:12:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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Could our big brains come from Neanderthals?

Brain size doesn't always matter. The last I knew elephants had huge ones but they're not doing too well tonight.

17 posted on 11/07/2006 8:14:06 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Correct. But, the measure that counts for more is the ratio of brain size to body size. We win that one over all other species--by far. Including Dumbo.


18 posted on 11/07/2006 8:19:15 PM PST by Pharmboy (Vote American, not Democrat.)
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"... those pesky pussies maanged to transfer some genes over by way of virus."

Well, yes, But viral transfer is the tool used by gene therapists even today.

19 posted on 11/07/2006 8:23:44 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If the Supreme Court has "Judges for Life," why is there any question about Roe vs Wade?)
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I don't know if our ancestors interbred with Neanderthals, but I think that all the DNA studies so far have turned up negative for any Neanderthal DNA surviving in living human beings. The Neanderthals lived in a restricted area of the planet--Europe and part of the Middle East--and there were other human populations elsewhere. How can they tell the smart gene didn't originate in one of the other groups?

They can't. I think it is a very remote possibility that our ancestors interbred with hairy, smelly Neanderthals.

Just Google "Almas" and you'll see what I mean.

20 posted on 11/07/2006 8:33:24 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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