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The Road Not Taken: Forfeiting a Majority
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt ^ | Wednesday, November 8, 2006 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 11/08/2006 8:14:07 PM PST by Checkers

The post-mortems are accumulating, but I think the obvious has to be stated: John McCain and his colleagues in the Gang of 14 cost the GOP its Senate majority while the conduct of a handful of corrupt House members gave that body's leadership the Democrats.

The first two paragraphs of my book Painting the Map Red --published in March of this year, read:

If you are a conservative Republican, as I am, you have a right to be worried. An overconfident and complacent Republican Party could be facing electoral disaster. Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, and a host of others could be looming in our future and undoing all the good we've tried to do.

It is break the glass and pull the alarm time for the Republican Party. The elections looming in November 2006 are shaping up to be disastrous for the GOP as the elections of 1994 were for the Democrats. Most GOP insiders seem unaware of the party's political peril. Some are resigned to a major defeat as the price we have to pay for a decade of consistent gains, which, they think, couldn't have gone on forever.

As cooler heads sort through the returns, they will see not a Democratic wave but a long series of bitter fights most of which were lost by very thin margins, the sort of margin that could have been overcome had there been greater purpose and energy arrayed on the GOP's side. The country did not fundamentally change from 2004, but the Republicans had to defend very difficult terrain in very adverse circumstances. Step by step over the past two years the GOP painted themselves into a corner from which there was no escape. Congressional leadership time and time again took the easy way out and declared truces with Democrats over issues, which ought not to have been compromised. The easy way led to Tuesday's result.

The criminal activities of Duke Cunningham, Bob Ney and Mark Foley were anchors around every Republican neck, and the damaged leadership could not figure out that the only way to slip that weight was by staying in town and working around the clock on issue after issue. The long recesses and the unwillingness to confront the issues head on --remember the House's inexplicable refusal to condemn the New York Times by name in a resolution over the SWIFT program leak?-- conveyed a smugness about the majority which was rooted in redistricting's false assurance of invulnerability. Only on rare occasions would the Republicans set up the sort of debate that sharpened the contrast between the parties. In wartime, the public expects much more from its leaders than they received from the GOP.

In the Senate three turning points stand out.

On April 15, 2005 --less than three months after President Bush had begun a second term won in part because of his pledge to fight for sound judges-- Senator McCain appeared on Hardball and announced he would not support the "constitutional option" to end Democratic filibusters. Then, stunned by the furious reaction, the senator from Arizona cobbled together the Gang of 14 "compromise" that in fact destroyed the ability of the Republican Party to campaign on Democratic obstructionism while throwing many fine nominees under the bus. Now in the ruins of Tuesday there is an almost certain end to the slow but steady restoration of originalism to the bench. Had McCain not abandoned his party and then sabotaged its plans, there would have been an important debate and a crucial decision taken on how the Constitution operates. The result was the complete opposite. Yes, President Bush got his two nominees to SCOTUS through a 55-45 Senate, but the door is now closed, and the court still tilted left. A once-in-a-generation opportunity was lost.

A few months later there came a debate in the Senate over the Democrats' demand for a timetable for withdrawal for Iraq led to another half-measure: A Frist-Warner alternative that demanded quarterly reports on the war's progress, a move widely and correctly interpreted as a blow to the Administration’s Iraq policy. Fourteen Republicans voted against the Frist-Warner proposal --including Senator McCain-- and the press immediately understood that the half-measure was an early indicator of erosion in support for a policy of victory.

Then came the two leaks of national security secrets to the New York Times, and an utterly feckless response from both the Senate and the House. Not one hearing was held; not one subpoena delivered. A resolution condemning these deeply injurious actions passed the House but dared not name the New York Times. The Senate did not even vote on a non-binding resolution.

Nor did the Senate get around to confirming the president's authority to conduct warrantless surveillance of al Qaeda contacting its operatives in the United States. Weeks were taken up jamming the incoherent McCain-Kennedy immigration bill through the Judiciary Committee only to see it repudiated by the majority of Republicans, and the opportunity lost for a comprehensive bill that would have met the demand for security within a rational regularization of the illegal population already here.

And while the Senate twiddled away its days, crucial nominees to the federal appellate bench languished in the Judiciary Committee. The most important of them --Peter Keisler who remains nominated for the D.C. Circuit-- didn't even receive a vote because of indifference on the part of Chairman Specter.

(The National Review's Byron York wondered why the president didn't bring up the judges issue in the campaign until the last week, and then only in Montana. The reason was obvious: Senators DeWine and Chafee were struggling and any focus on the legacy of the Gang of 14 would doom DeWine's already dwindling chances while reminding the country of the retreat from principal in early '05.)

As summer became fall, the Administration and Senator Frist began a belated attempt to salvage the term. At exactly that moment Senators McCain and Graham threw down their still murky objections to the Administration’s proposals on the trial and treatment of terrorists. Precious days were lost as was momentum and clarity, the NSA program left unconfirmed (though still quite constitutional) and Keisler et al hung out to dry.

Throughout this two years the National Republican Senatorial Committee attempted to persuade an unpersuadable base that Lincoln Chafee was a Republican. For years Chafee has frustrated measure after measure, most recently the confirmation of John Bolton, even after Ahmadinejad threatened and Chavez insulted the United States from the UN stage. Chafee was a one-man wrecking crew on the NRSC finances, a drain of resources and energy, and a billboard for the idea that the Senate is first a club and only secondarily a body of legislators.

It is hard to conceive of how the past two years could have been managed worse on the Hill.

The presidential ambitions of three senators ended Tuesday night, though two of them will not face up to it.

The Republican Party sent them and their 52 colleagues to Washington D.C. to implement an agenda which could have been accomplished but that opportunity was frittered away.

The Republican Party raised the money and staffed the campaigns that had yielded a 55-45 seat majority, and the Republican Party expected the 55 to act like a majority. Confronted with obstruction, the Republicans first fretted and then caved on issue after issue. Had the 55 at least been seen to be trying --hard, and not in a senatorial kind of way-- Tuesday would have had a much different result. Independents, especially, might have seen why the majority mattered.

Will the GOP get back to a working majority again? Perhaps. And perhaps sooner than you think. The Democrats have at least six vulnerable senators running in 2008, while the situation looks pretty good for the GOP.

But the majority is not going to return unless the new minority leadership --however it is composed-- resolves to persuade the public, and to be firm in its convictions, not concerned for the praise of the Beltway-Manhattan media machine.

Hugh Hewitt is a law professor, broadcast journalist, and author of several books including Painting the Map Red: The Fight to Create a Permanent Republican Majority .


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1 posted on 11/08/2006 8:14:09 PM PST by Checkers
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To: Checkers

Tell it like it is, Hugh.


2 posted on 11/08/2006 8:15:35 PM PST by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: Checkers

There's a lot of monday morning quarterbacking going on and much of it may be right, but I still feel our biggest problem was too low of a turnout. Too many people stayed home (for whatever reason).


3 posted on 11/08/2006 8:18:22 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: Checkers
Also from his site (different author, though):

An Overdue Reckoning
Posted by Dean Barnett | 10:02 AM

We lost the House. We lost the Senate. As we struggle to get through the morning after, there’s only one thing to do – summon the circular firing squad. Don’t worry, I’m kidding. Sort of. For this is indeed the time to take a hard look at what brought us to this sorry juncture.

The first thing I want to do is enumerate a few things that did not cost us this election. It wasn’t the media. We faced the same media in 2002 and 2004 and prevailed. And it wasn’t the savvy campaigning orchestrated by a suddenly gifted group of Machiavellian Democrats. That one doesn’t fly either. The Democratic Party remains the organization that allowed John Kerry access to a microphone a week before the election.

Most importantly, we didn’t lose because our countrymen suddenly misplaced the virtues that make America great. It is a distinctly liberal trait to blame “the people” when they don’t vote as one would dictate. I’ll brook none of that from our side. The fact is, we thought our country would be better off with a Republican congress. We made a case to the American people. They didn’t buy it because they thought it was a weak case.

And you know what? They were right. In the closing weeks of the campaign season, I felt like I was a lawyer who had a bad client while writing this blog. That client was the Republican Party which had broken its Contract with America from 1994 and had become unmoored from its conservative principles. As its advocate, I couldn’t make a more compelling case for Republicans staying in power than the fact that the Democrats would be worse. I believed in that case, but when that’s all the party gave its advocates to work with, you can honestly conclude that Republicans got this drubbing the old fashioned way – we earned it.

THE BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT OF THE past six years has been the White House’s ongoing inability to express the rationale for the so-called war on terror. For most of you reading this site, the rationale is obvious and well known: There exists an enormous segment of the Muslim world that seeks our destruction. Either we transform our malefactors, or the world’s fate will be unimaginably horrific.

This is a long war, and yet leading Republicans including the one in the White House have yet to articulate why it’s necessary. On the campaign trail, only Rick Santorum embraced the challenges that our country faces. Our other candidates and especially the Liddy Dole-led RSCC weren’t worthy of the era.

In the war of ideas, the White House has also been a disappointment. The president has never clearly acknowledged the stakes or even who our enemy is. At no point has President Bush called for sacrifice, or even encouraged more young people to join the military.

The president could have been using his bully pulpit to insist that all our universities welcome ROTC back on campus. He had an ally on that front in the departed president of Harvard who also happened to be a former Democratic Secretary of the Treasury. He eschewed this opportunity, and we can label it just one of the countless blown chances of the past five years.

The president could also explain, as Eisenhower did, that the economy has to stay strong for us to be able to prosecute this long war. Thus, tax policies that foster economic growth are not inconsistent with a call for sacrifice. Again, this is a case that has never been made.

You add it all up, and the people are right to wonder why our boys are dying in Iraq. Because the president hasn’t made the mission’s importance clear, it seems like a folly. It seems like vanity. It seems like pride. In truth it is a fight for our very survival, but this has been an argument left to the likes of the Weekly Standard, the National Review and Victor Davis Hanson to make. We’ve tried, but we preach mostly to the choir.

The president has had the chance to do more, but as of yet he hasn’t chosen to do so. Has he lost faith in the American people? If so, then he more than anyone else needs to look in the mirror this morning.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? The most important thing we can do as conservatives and as Republicans, starting today, is to show a seriousness of mission that has been conspicuously lacking the last couple of years.

That means that for the time being there are certain itches that we cannot scratch. I doubt many people reading this page are thrilled with the prospects of Speaker Pelosi, Chairman Dingell and Leader Reid. But you know what? They won, and they get the spoils. And we have to work with them and try to get this war moving in the right direction. There may come a time for partisan sniping, but that time is not this morning. Everyone involved in leading this nation now has the sacred duty to serve their country first, last and only.

If we can usher out the partisan rancor that has so marred the past five years, then we must. It’s here that George Allen can play a key role.

It’s no secret that I haven’t been a huge admirer of the Senator’s campaign. I thought it was beneath him, and beneath our political system. The fact that the Webb campaign was every bit as bad didn’t make the Allen campaign any nobler.

Now George Allen has a chance. He can announce that he will let the electoral process run its course but decline the invitation to lawyer up. And we can support him. The vicious cycle that began with Al Gore in 2000 can be ended. Graciousness can be returned to American politics. It is perhaps a deliciously ironic coda to this election season that the candidate who waged the season’s ugliest and most inept campaign can be the guy to restore class and dignity to the American political system. This is a real opportunity for Senator Allen, as it is for the rest of us.

There is pain this morning. The loss of good men like Rick Santorum and Chris Chocola hurts. But the good news is that now our party must return to ideas as our key to power. Political sleight of hand and the weakness of our opponents carried us through most of the decade. Indeed, given the remarkable number of close races on the board last night, the Rovian/Mehlman genius came quite close to saving our bacon once again.

At the risk of committing apostasy, last night’s defeat is good not only for our party but more importantly for our ideas and ideals. Those ideas and ideals have for too long taken a backseat to other less noble concerns. New leadership must emerge, leadership that understands our principles, can articulate them, and will not abandon them. A long overdue reckoning must now begin.

4 posted on 11/08/2006 8:20:13 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Checkers
"The Republican Party sent them and their 52 colleagues to Washington D.C. to implement an agenda which could have been accomplished but that opportunity was frittered away."

And there you have it: the Democrats didn't win, the Republicans lost.

I'm making a point of coming out of hiding as a Libertarian -- who has voted straight Republican in almost every election for 26 years -- that the reason the Republicans lost is that they didn't run as Republicans.

Want to win big in 2008? Here's a radical idea: run as Republicans!

Stop lying and start doing what you promise to do, then you'll win.

It's a dark day when you need to have a "Liberdopian" explain that to you.

5 posted on 11/08/2006 8:20:23 PM PST by Majic (The first rule of a political election is: GET ELECTED.)
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To: Checkers

The reality that will be used as a rectal suppository for the mindless voting public in 2008. This country is in untold trouble and imminent major danger and these morons have no clue...about not only what they have already done to America, but will probably try to do in 2008.


6 posted on 11/08/2006 8:20:53 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Checkers
The presidential ambitions of three senators ended Tuesday night, though two of them will not face up to it.

Okay, who's the third? I'm assuming McCain and Frist are two of them.

7 posted on 11/08/2006 8:21:21 PM PST by dawn53
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To: Majic

they do run as repubs....to bad they forgot how to govern as such.


8 posted on 11/08/2006 8:21:58 PM PST by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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To: Checkers

Can you just imagine the carnage if we had faced a COMPETENT Democratic Party???

Inept Democrats have bred Miquetoast Republicans, many of whom are now GONE...


9 posted on 11/08/2006 8:22:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: dawn53

Allen.


10 posted on 11/08/2006 8:22:49 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Checkers

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"


11 posted on 11/08/2006 8:23:07 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Majic

Stop lying and start doing what you promise to do, then you'll win.
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At the end of the day, that was the undoing of the Repubs. Bush made some serious campaign pledges, which if he had performed on, would have tipped the scales away from the Iraq War and still won back the Congress.

Those were notably: Social Security reform, illegal immigration solution, reduced size of government, and squelching radical government spending. He failed MISERABLY on all these counts. IMHO, the attitude of the voter would have been vastly different if he had delivered AS PROMISED.

He didn't and we lost.


12 posted on 11/08/2006 8:23:59 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Checkers
The presidential ambitions of three senators ended Tuesday night, though two of them will not face up to it.

Interesting. Who? McCain, Frist and Allen, with Allen being the one who realizes he's toast?

Don't forget Ted "Bridge to Nowhere" Stevens, Denny "Hands off Freezer Bag Jefferson" Hastert, Trent "*&%&#$ so-called Porkbusters" Lott, and John "Mr K Street" Boehner. These guys have a sense of entitlement that John Kerry can barely match.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

13 posted on 11/08/2006 8:24:54 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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To: Checkers; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...


14 posted on 11/08/2006 8:25:02 PM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Majic
They did run as Republicans
maybe they should of run as conservatives
15 posted on 11/08/2006 8:25:09 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: umgud

Too many people stayed home for many of the reasons he outlined here. The GOP leadership sucked for the past two sessions and anyone but a Kool Aid drinker could see it.


16 posted on 11/08/2006 8:25:50 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: The G Man

Unless there is a significant improvement in leadership, the Republicans are going to take it on the chin even harder in '08 (barring an attack in the lower 48 or the 'rats totally screwing up).


17 posted on 11/08/2006 8:26:30 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Lakeshark

Oh yeah, well I totally agree there!


18 posted on 11/08/2006 8:27:36 PM PST by dawn53
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To: umgud

cause and effect - you just (correctly) identified (part of) the effect. The cause is as described above + an inability or unwillingness to defend + promote things effectively. I'm still amazed that a situation now exists where people truly believe there were no (ie NONE, ZERO) WMD in Iraq, Saddam was one year away from a nuke. Every challenger should have been challenged to explain what they'd have done about Salman Pak. But they ran, ran so far away (Flock of Seagulls)


19 posted on 11/08/2006 8:27:56 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Boehner CANNOT be Minority Leader.


20 posted on 11/08/2006 8:28:44 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: umgud

I thought the turnout on both sides was hugh for a mid-term.


21 posted on 11/08/2006 8:29:06 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: misterrob
The GOP leadership sucked for the past two sessions

How very true, but it's really gonna suck for the next 2 years. I hope the pubbies get back to basics for '08.

22 posted on 11/08/2006 8:29:15 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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To: Fiji Hill

:D


23 posted on 11/08/2006 8:29:19 PM PST by chasio649
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To: Fiji Hill

24 posted on 11/08/2006 8:30:05 PM PST by GeorgeBerryman
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To: lesser_satan

"The vicious cycle that began with Al Gore in 2000 can be ended. Graciousness can be returned to American politics."

I was with him until here. The dems will in no way permit this to happen. If anything I fully expect them to become more vicious and more partisan. George Allen can concede, he can litigate, he can kiss Jim Webb's big fat Scot-Irish behind, none of it will make a wee bit of difference.


25 posted on 11/08/2006 8:30:41 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Checkers

Dewine dug his grave while becoming a beltway boy. I'm sure right now he's still stunned that his pals the Democrats went all out to defeat him, after all he was ever ready to compromise especially on conservative principles.


26 posted on 11/08/2006 8:31:17 PM PST by bonehead4freedom (Rhinos don't win elections ,conservatives do !)
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To: Checkers
When Republicans govern like liberals - they lose. The Democrats did not even run as liberals this year!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

27 posted on 11/08/2006 8:32:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EagleUSA
Stop lying and start doing what you promise to do, then you'll win.

$$$$$ talks. If it takes a lie to take the cash, the lying will continue.

28 posted on 11/08/2006 8:33:23 PM PST by zarf
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To: EagleUSA
"Bush made some serious campaign pledges, which if he had performed on, would have tipped the scales away from the Iraq War and still won back the Congress."

Perhaps, but I can't take up the mantra that "It's all Bush's fault!"

The Republicans have had six years to implement a true Republican agenda -- one which, by the way, as a Libertarian, I'd been holding my breath for.

And what do we get? A bunch of spineless RINOs pushing Democrat ideology.

Apparently the people of this great nation have grown weary of the empty promises and would rather have real Democrats running the country than phony Republicans.

God knows they must be desperate if they're voting Democrat. :^P

29 posted on 11/08/2006 8:34:07 PM PST by Majic (The first rule of a political election is: GET ELECTED.)
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To: Checkers

this is crap.
stop bashing our braindead Republican senators,
for normal behavior.

Republicans lost because...
House scandals
people are tired of the war
3 buck gas
twit candidates
Bush-Cheney fatigue
Ohio mess


30 posted on 11/08/2006 8:35:35 PM PST by greasepaint
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To: EagleUSA

So true!

http://www.cafenetamerica.com


31 posted on 11/08/2006 8:36:45 PM PST by MaineVoter2002
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To: lesser_satan

The idea here is sound. I agree 100%.

It can really be reduced to simplicity:

We didn't give them a reason to vote FOR us. We only gave them a reason to vote AGAINST the other side.

That is an argument that rarely works. It is the argument that Kerry's crowd used to try and elect him and it's why he lost. If you have nothing positive to offer and are only telling people 'the other guy sucks more', you're bankrupt and you are going to lose.

We all saw it going in, and we all held our heads up in spite of it, but it wasn't good enough to get the job done.

We need positive, proactive LEADERS who are able to EXPLAIN our positions and our beliefs and FIGHT FOR THEM.

This milquetoast, weak kneed, lilylivered crap isn't going to cut it anymore.


32 posted on 11/08/2006 8:37:33 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: EagleUSA

Social Security reform:
Are you from THIS PLANET?
On Earth, Bush and the Republicans got HAMMERED at every single mention of Social Security reform...

Illegal immigration solution:
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....


33 posted on 11/08/2006 8:37:47 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Majic

Apparently the people of this great nation have grown weary of the empty promises and would rather have real Democrats running the country than phony Republicans.
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If that is what it all distills down to, I would prefer incompetent, complacent Repubs to socialist-Marxists running this country, any day. Real democrats = power-centric Marxists. That is what their party has gravitated into...still with my dislike for the Repub performance, I will still take the MUCH lesser of two evils.


34 posted on 11/08/2006 8:38:53 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I mean, for the love of God, what the hell were we doing? We were protecting Chafee because we wanted to KEEP A SEAT for a majority? Why? What good was it going to do us?

When all your majority is about is keeping the majority, the time has come for you to go back to being a minority to reprioritize. That's where we are now. And we can emerge stronger for it.


35 posted on 11/08/2006 8:39:57 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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There better not be any kissing up to democrats- not after what they did to the GOP for 6 long years now & the GOP BETTER start firing back- loudly and constantly whenever the Dems obstruct progress- otherwise the Dems will win the minds of the public once again in '08.

Christian news and commentary at: sacredscoop.com ...

36 posted on 11/08/2006 8:40:15 PM PST by CottShop (http://sacredscoop.com)
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To: lesser_satan
If we can usher out the partisan rancor that has so marred the past five years, then we must.

I was with Mr. Barnett until this line. I think he is utterly wrong. President Bush tried the "new tone" approach and it was a disaster. The partisan rancor was largely on the side of the Democrats, who used it to their great advantage. It was not pretty, but it worked.

If the Republicans are to win, they must confront the Democrats. A little partisan rancor over the right issues would do wonders to energize the Republican base.

37 posted on 11/08/2006 8:40:53 PM PST by Logophile
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To: The G Man

Pretty spot on.


38 posted on 11/08/2006 8:41:29 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
We didn't give them a reason to vote FOR us. We only gave them a reason to vote AGAINST the other side.

But that's really all the Dems did, too. And yet, they won.
39 posted on 11/08/2006 8:41:33 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: visualops

Right on the money IMO.


40 posted on 11/08/2006 8:41:46 PM PST by TheStickman
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To: Lazamataz
So...I've been looking for the right place and time to ask this question...and since there really *IS* no "right" place and time...


Is the RYMB Ping list officially dead? On life support? Surviving with a feeding tube?
41 posted on 11/08/2006 8:43:48 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: tcrlaf

Illegal immigration solution:
Look at the election Demographics. Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....
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Yes they did BUT if the Federal government had stood up and DONE ITS MANDATED JOB of protecting the borders of this country, it would never have been an issue. The borders would have been closed very easily, and the ILLEGAL FLOW of illegals and God knows what else, would have been ended.
The Federal government wastes over $100 BILLION per year to support illegal aliens, to say NOTHING of the state level. The cost to implement a complete border closure would be a fraction of that. Yes, it started way before Bush -- but Bush chose to do nothing, in fact, help and aid illegals by suppressing information flow from the Border Patrol about illegal crossing -- a matter of public record.

He remains Mexico's Manchurian Candidate. For that, he is most certainly to blame. Without question.


42 posted on 11/08/2006 8:44:14 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: beezdotcom

When there isn't anything positive coming from anyone, it only makes sense for people to give the other side a shot. (as horrible as we know that could be)

At the very least, if you aren't offering anything positive AND have scandals pouring out of your ear, AND have a war that nobody articulates properly, AND have a spending problem, AND have people buggering kids in their offices...Well, people are gonna vote for the guy offering nothing positive that doesn't have all that other crap...


43 posted on 11/08/2006 8:47:37 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: EagleUSA

"BUT if the Federal government had stood up and DONE ITS MANDATED JOB"

Would a', could a', should a'...

Their here, Thier Queer... Oh wait....

Theier are 15-30 million of them now, and they aren't going anywhere, anytime soon, so we'll just have to deal with it, if we want to WIN...

The Border BS is going to subject us to at least 2, and possibly 10 years of absolute hell now...


44 posted on 11/08/2006 8:47:51 PM PST by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Steven W.

Grandpa said never trust a man that values a suntan.


45 posted on 11/08/2006 8:48:09 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Majic

I declared myself after Campaign Finance Reform.

I was accustomed to seeing Democrats propose and support legislation which blatantly contradicted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

But when Republicans gleefully joined in, it became too much for me to stomach.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 8:50:12 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline has been Reutered. (Can you tell?))
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To: CottShop

We need to obstuct their agenda while making it look like they are being obstructionists. We need to make them look like they are mean and nasty and hateful. Just like Clinton did to Newt. However, we need to do it with the media against us, which is much harder.

It can be done though. We need the right leaders to get it done. I'm not sure if we have people that could really pull it off. Bush would need to get with the program on that as well...not sure he's ready.


47 posted on 11/08/2006 8:50:38 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: EagleUSA
"If that is what it all distills down to, I would prefer incompetent, complacent Repubs to socialist-Marxists running this country, any day."

Me too, which is why I crossed party lines yet again to vote Republican this year.

And for what? To find that they had all but conceded their control of the nation to the Democrats -- who had no logical plan to speak of!

WTFO?!?

The Republicans had it all, and did what with it?

Sorry folks, if you want my vote next time, you're going to have to earn it.

I'm voting Libertarian next time -- unless perhaps a real Republican runs.

But if you lie to me again about what Republicans will do with control of the government, I will never vote for you again.

Hello? Any Republicans around here?

I can't vote for Republicans if they don't exist.

48 posted on 11/08/2006 8:51:06 PM PST by Majic (The first rule of a political election is: GET ELECTED.)
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To: bonehead4freedom

Rinos are our politcal body's cancer. We knew they were there but we just let em eat us away.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 8:51:08 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: tcrlaf
Our "Border" people cost us a TON of Hispanic Votes Nationwide, and gave the Dems a whole new base of Illegal Voters....

I wish someone would have made clear that we need both a wall and an effective means of legal immigration and work visas. The protocols required to immigrate legally are obscene, especially since they're only inflicted upon the law-abiding.

50 posted on 11/08/2006 8:53:36 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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