Compassionate Conservatism Lost

Townhall.com ^ | Wednesday, November 8, 2006 | Herman Cain

[Logical me]

The spin is on. Sure, we Republicans once again are doing the hard work, and the corrupt RATS step in on the last quarter and take credit for the new Iraq. Talking to a few returning vets, Iraq for the most part was doing great. New schools, hospitals, much improved Police taking more control and the military was getting up to speed and in excellent shape. Oil fields are up to speed and the oil production is as good as before the war. It did take time to equip and build a Iraqi Army with all the logistics needed to be successful. The careful and time consuming will prove to be a better Army. There were lots to things to overcome. The danger now is pulling out. The Iraqis have lots more to do and the terrorist are working like hell as a last ditch effort to salvage Iraq and become the third player with Iran and Syria. Our ignorant RATs have no concept, no plan, and in the ranks of stupid, they top the list.

The Government was moving faster than was portrayed. They had a lot of past to shed off their backs and learn how a democracy works. Look how long it took for us to establish a sound democratic form of government and compare it to the Iraqi.

One thing about the left RATS, they spent all those Bush years learning how to enhance their spin mythology. We are in trouble in 2008 and beyond because of the third party sucking votes that could be ours and RATS taking credit where they have not earned anything. If that is not corruption at its finest then I don't know the ultimate corruption.

[jellybean]

ust two years ago Bush and Santorum unconscionably endorsed liberal Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA), who was in a primary race with conservative Congressman Pat Toomey. Specter won the primary, but Santorum ultimately paid the price.

I was in Pittsburgh a week before the election. I don't recall seeing or hearing about Arlen Spector out campaigning for Santorum. I'm enjoying the delicious irony that Spector lost his chairmanship of the Judiciary committee due to Santorum's loss.

[FastCoyote]

"We have no one to blame but ourselves. We had a great opportunity to formulate a reasonable immigration reform package, but the House stood firm in the face of dozens of polls showing Americans wanted comprehensive immigration reform...and wanted some type of path to citizenship for those already here. We blew it!"

That is absolutely false. The idea has always been, build a wall FIRST and prove sincerity about controlling borders, THEN work on dealing with those here. Don't try and pin the Troglodyte label on anti-ILLEGAL immigrant conservatives, it just doesn't fly.

[Small-L]

Not true, the libertarian offers him a job. If he takes it, voluntarily works 80 hours/week when he gets paid for 40, asks for help getting into school, the libertarian helps; if he doesn't take the job, or doesn't care about himself, the libertarian lets him starve.

[upchuck]

Ditto Mrs. Irey in PA.

[Small-L]

This mythic LEADER must vocalize positions on these issues

And be able to explain to the voters why this position is the right course, economically and socially.

[Logical me]

Compasonate Conservative is just a fancy way of saying i'm a socialist!

And as for Compassionate Conservatism, you are exactly right. That plus the Iraqi misinformation by the MSM and RATS did us in. Going to be a hard road to overcome in 2008, but if we get off our collective a@@es, just could be done. Remember, we have laid the ground work and the RATS will take credit by not doing much to upset it for the next 2 years.

[Logical me]

Sorry for the Iraqi post on this topic. Forgot where I was.

[Small-L]

...because of the third party sucking votes that could be ours ...

So what are we doing to retain those votes or win them back? The core agenda of the Libertarians (constrained government both fiscally and socially), and the Constitution Party (constitutionally constrained government), both lobby for the same thing: smaller govenment, less spending, lower taxes, less federal intervention in issues of the states and local government(education).

The message is clear: If you want those votes, then act like the conservative Republicans that you claim to be!

[meandog]

if he doesn't take the job, or doesn't care about himself, the libertarian lets him starve.

Yup, don't disagree, the point is that he had the choice...

[Revolting cat!]

Can we bring back Dispassionate Conservatism now?

No, but would you settle on Heartless Conservatismn?

[Revolting cat!]

No. 26: a keeper!

[Les_Miserables]

Please..Kerry was not the answer to these issues in 2004...

[Blackirish]

Nothing personal against Allen but I think he Burns, DeWine and especially W....symbolized the era of "big government conservatism" or "compassionate conservatism" or whatever you want to call it is now as dead as Custer's bugler...and I am happy about that. It was killing us as a movement and our country as a whole. Our forward deficits went from 20 trillion to 40 trillion in just 4 years. This wipe-out needed to be done...better now then 08.

Denny Hastert will now be replaced by Pence ....Hallelujah!

And if any presidential candidate for the Repub nominee even talks about "comprehensive immigration policy" without a fence being built will be toast without a plate.

[trillabodilla]

"This country could use a little less compassion and a whole lot more conservatism from this administration."


****POST OF THE DAY

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/rant/ HANDOUTS AND ENTITLEMENTS ARE NOT COMPASSION!!
THEY ARE BONDAGE!/rant

[MACVSOG68]

That is absolutely false. The idea has always been, build a wall FIRST and prove sincerity about controlling borders, THEN work on dealing with those here. Don't try and pin the Troglodyte label on anti-ILLEGAL immigrant conservatives, it just doesn't fly.

Well, it may not be what you wanted, but almost every poll for months reflected that a majority of Americans wanted some type of comprehensive immigration reform that included a path to citizenship and/or a guest worker program similar to what the President wanted. The fact that both houses of Congress were comprised of a majority of Republicans, and both houses passed immigration bills, yet refused to come together to even attempt to settle differences tells much.

While a comprehensive bill under the Republicans may not have been perfect, what we are going to get now with a Democrat congress will be far worse.

Apparently, they were too busy trying to amend the Constitution to bother with immigration, budgets, and energy. Nor did I use the term troglodyte...you did.

[Les_Miserables]

"And if any presidential candidate for the Repub nominee even talks about "comprehensive immigration policy" without a fence being built will be toast without a plate"

Unfortunately they won't have the opportunity. This will be passed into law in the next six months unless I miss my guess....Thank you "W".

[A_perfect_lady]

A conservative meets a homeless alcholic on the street who asks him for a dollar; he yells a few obsentities at the man for being a bum and a drunk then passes him by, ignoring the principles of the Christianity he wears on his sleeve.
A liberal meets the same man, grabs him against his will, stuffs him in his vehicle and takes him to a AA shelter which is supported by tax dollars (none of which the drunk wants) then forgets about him and tells himself he's done a good deed. Suffering from the DTs, the drunk later dies.
A libertarian meets the man and gives him a dollar to help buy a bottle of Thunderbird.

It's true. I'm a Libertarian at heart.

[Blackirish]

Well, it may not be what you wanted, but almost every poll for months reflected that a majority of Americans wanted some type of comprehensive immigration reform that included a path to citizenship and/or a guest worker program similar to what the President wanted

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I really doubt that. Show me 1 poll that reflects this please.

[MichiganConservative]

Too bad freedom isn't selling to the sheeple. They want to be taken care of. Many would vote for an out-of-the-tyrant-closet brutal dictator if he promised them free health care and continued Social(ist) Security payments.