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Where Do We Go From Here?
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Posted on 11/09/2006 1:23:34 PM PST by MarkDel

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To: MarkDel

I don't think they dirtied Rick. Not as bad as Allen anyway. I'm starting to think about Santorum for President again. He maaay be the best of field.


21 posted on 11/09/2006 1:49:20 PM PST by ichabod1 ("For make benefit of Our Glorious Socializt Revolution")
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To: MarkDel

I don't think they dirtied Rick. Not as bad as Allen anyway. I'm starting to think about Santorum for President again. He maaay be the best of field.


22 posted on 11/09/2006 1:49:42 PM PST by ichabod1 ("For make benefit of Our Glorious Socializt Revolution")
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To: MarkDel

Could be something we could rally around.


23 posted on 11/09/2006 1:50:44 PM PST by ichabod1 ("For make benefit of Our Glorious Socializt Revolution")
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To: MarkDel

>OK, so how do we SOLVE that problem? What can we do to please BOTH Libertarian Conservatives AND Social Conservatives?<

WWII brought everyone together for the good and the ultimate victory of our great nation. Besides a willing and determined military, blacks, whites, young women and old men worked side by side in shipyards, and in munition factories, resulting in our ultimate victory. In contrast, the war on terror seems to have splintered the American people into many opposing camps, rather than unifying them for the good and the survival of the Republic. Unfortunately, Communist organizational infiltration, patience and perserverence has succeeded in fracturing Patriotism. Patriotism is now considered by many as a very bad word. But Patriotism is the only glue I know of which can bring a people together for the good of the country. However, I am open to other suggestions.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 1:52:19 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: Thom Pain

Thom Pain,

You are correct. But more importantly, we need an internet service to compete with the Left Wing bias of YAHOO, which is where so many people get their casual, daily news. Do not underestimate the impact of Yahoo on Independents who pay little or no attention until Election time. These are the people who know every single person on Dancing with the Stars or the Bachelor, but can't tell you the name of their own Congressman...


25 posted on 11/09/2006 1:52:58 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: MarkDel

Bingo! Newt was the Voice of the Right years ago. Hope he still has the pepper...


26 posted on 11/09/2006 1:54:34 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: ichabod1

The personal attacks on Santorum were HIDEOUS and they did have an impact...


27 posted on 11/09/2006 1:54:37 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: redhead

I think he does...Newt is the most articulate and intelligent voice on the Right...


28 posted on 11/09/2006 1:55:33 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: MarkDel

Good analysis. Thanks.


29 posted on 11/09/2006 1:58:54 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: MarkDel
I agree with you 100%. We need to be persistent and omni-present on ALL media. Currently we are on talk radio and FR. Our presence doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to b'cast TV, cable, Newspapers, Time/Newsweek/Parade/etc.

Millions tune in to even Katie and she is in LAST place.

Imagine if Tony Snow presented real news and conservative talking points on CBS every night. Imagine if "60 Minutes" was produced by Donald Rumsfeld!

Imagine what could be done with even a neutral news program, let alone a conservative bias.

30 posted on 11/09/2006 2:00:09 PM PST by Thom Pain (8/14/2006 Israel made a HUGH mistake!)
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If there is anybody on the Right the left hates as much as Bush, it's Newt. But he's also the guy with the brains and the ability to make it stick. I see he has a new, "21st Century Contract With America" up on his website. Interesting, especially for me, in view of the fact that I posted his OLD "Contract" on my blogspot just this morning! LOL! GMTA?
31 posted on 11/09/2006 2:01:25 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: MarkDel
..we need to determine HOW we get into this situation ..

In retrospect, I am perplexed we didn't see this coming.

There were two special US House of Rep. elections this past year in normally GOP districts which I believe went to the Dems, did they not.

Or did I dream that?

Regardless, I am convinced there are several reasons the GOP got thumped, and they varied percentage-wise for each candidate.

In general, however, I blame the loss on:

(Iraq war dissatisfaction: 60-percent)

(Illegal immigration pandering by Bush/Senate: 15-percent)

(GOP Overspending and Corruption: 15-percent)

(And lastly, Blatant Media Hatred against GOP on... Stem Cell issue, Wilson/Plame/Rove/Libby fiasco, and Hurricane Katrina: 15-percent)

32 posted on 11/09/2006 2:03:15 PM PST by Edit35
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OK, so how do we SOLVE that problem? What can we do to please BOTH Libertarian Conservatives AND Social Conservatives?

A basic of conflict resolution is to find the most important thing which we can all agree.

1. Both respect the freedoms set forth by the founders of this nation. 2. Libertarian Conservatives and Social Conservatives can probably agree that give-aways such as welfare for the able-bodied is a travesty and unconstitutional.

3. Libertarians Conservatives and Social Conservatives agree on the 2nd Amendment.

4. They both respect the Military.

See? Start where we agree. Where we disagree, we can agree to seek the constitution for answers..the paper itself, NOT as defined by SCOTUS (which is another story)

I'm sure we can do something to make a cohesive party. Maybe sometimes we can agree to disagree, and allow each State to decide as is proper on matters of Abortion, Same sex marriage, etc.

33 posted on 11/09/2006 2:03:29 PM PST by Last Laugh
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The fact is the voters love split government! The control of all branches(except Judiciary) of government is somewhat of an aberration. Absolute power ect...
The congress in the hands of the Dim's might actually enhance the chances of a Republican administration in 2008.
34 posted on 11/09/2006 2:06:11 PM PST by TUX
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By taking a good, hard, realistic look at what made Ronald Reagan popular and great: militaristic nationalism, Keynsian economic spending which make the economy boom, and middle class (as opposed to the Bush upper class) tax cuts.

In other words, Reagan was FDR with middle class tax cuts.

If you want a strong industrial base, strong military and invincible political power, the American model is FDR.

Reagan was the FDR of the 1980s.

Want to win again? Then act like FDR.


35 posted on 11/09/2006 2:09:12 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: Last Laugh

I agree that those are many issues which Reagan used to bind the two together, but BOTH sides now regularly denigrate the other side...much to my chagrin. How do we get them to stop engaging in the "circular firing squad" I talked about? That common ground SHOULD do it, but it's not at the moment.


36 posted on 11/09/2006 2:09:23 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: Vicomte13

BINGO!!! That is exactly the answer I was looking for. Act like a Right Wing version of FDR, which is what Reagan did. But will that fly with Social Conservatives who have become more demanding than they were during the Reagan years?


37 posted on 11/09/2006 2:11:30 PM PST by MarkDel
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To: MarkDel

I don't know why the hell everybody always shoots me down when I propose Newt/Ollie '08.


38 posted on 11/09/2006 2:13:43 PM PST by txhurl
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To: MarkDel

"OK, so how do we SOLVE that problem? What can we do to please BOTH Libertarian Conservatives AND Social Conservatives?"

LIke I said above: be FDR.

Blatantly and unapologetically skew the American economy towards protecting the jobs and financial security of the middle and working classes, build the military and fight the Nazis (Islamofascists today) everywhere. And don't worry about the mewling and puking of the upper classes, because they have nowhere to go (everywhere else in the world is worse for them, and the Democrats are worse too), but offer them advisory roles, etc., to co-opt them into government.

Reagan's hero was FDR.
The Democrats turned into America-hating pacifists and moral wastrels. This disgusted Reagan.
Reagan in 1981 was actually more LIBERAL than FDR was on most things, but the core: aggressive nationalism, military industrialism, and an economy aimed at the middle class were all the keys to the success of both.

Be FDR, and we will win again.


39 posted on 11/09/2006 2:14:15 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: MarkDel
That common ground SHOULD do it, but it's not at the moment.

I am truly not trying to be flippant when I say "Pelosi and Rangle" will bring us together.

The worse it gets, the more we will concentrate on what is important. Foxhole buddy sort of thing.

40 posted on 11/09/2006 2:14:21 PM PST by Last Laugh
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