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Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"
Bottom Line Up Front ^ | 11/09/06 | Amy Procttor

Posted on 11/10/2006 6:57:10 AM PST by Col. Bob

Nancy Pelosi was interviewed on Fox Report tonight and asked what her plan for victory in Iraq would look like. After a few seconds of stammering, the obvious awkward moment ended. Here's Nancy Pelosi on defining victory in Iraq:

“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

"This isn't a war to win"? This is the next SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES? We're doomed.

See the video on Amy's URL:

Discover the Network put it this way:

"Bipartisanship" has been a keyword in many of Pelosi's speeches. In an address she delivered in 2002, for instance, she remarked, "We must stand together in a bipartisan way to fight the war against terrorism." Though she supported the Clinton Administration's military actions in Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia, she has denounced both the 1991 and 2003 wars in Iraq. Pelosi has also opposed President George W. Bush on most issues of Homeland Security, and has most recently joined the ACLU's crusade to limit the powers of the Patriot Act.

Hypocrisy anyone?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; pelosi; waronterror
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Pelosi voices the 09/10/2006 mindset of the Democrat party and their liberal MSM enablers. As i said in a letter to the editor of our local paper in 2003:

We are fighting a world war and Iraq is a major battleground in this war. The winner will determine whether the world will be made safe for democracy or theocracy. Al Qaeda and the Baathists know this. They seek to kill enough Americans so we will run away just as we did in Lebanon and Somalia.

Osama bin-Laden fears a secular democracy. He knows it will persuade people to be in charge of their destiny and by using their collective reasoning, they can shape policies and pass laws as they see fit. That will lead them to ignore the “unalterable laws” of Allah for the whole of mankind as codified in the Islamic Sharia. Democracy will make Muslims love this world, forget the next world, and abandon jihad. If established in a Muslim country for a reasonably long time, democracy could lead to economic prosperity, which in turn would make Muslims reluctant to die in the defense of their faith.

Osama hopes that Iraq will become the graveyard of secular democracy. I say again, in Iraq today we have a clash of two visions of the world and future of mankind. The side prepared to accept more sacrifices will win.

1 posted on 11/10/2006 6:57:11 AM PST by Col. Bob
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To: Col. Bob

Just pray that nothing ever happens to Bush and Cheney.


2 posted on 11/10/2006 6:58:42 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Col. Bob

Hopefully the Reps and the Admin get thier balls back and confront the Dems on their stance. Use quotes, create voter remorse early, and recruit some strong candidates for '08.


3 posted on 11/10/2006 6:59:33 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: Col. Bob
Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"

She's right. The way the administration has conducted this babysitting operation, it's not winnable. It's a "situation" to be managed until the ragheads get their shi* together (good luck).

4 posted on 11/10/2006 7:00:07 AM PST by zarf
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To: Col. Bob

Has "buyer's remorse" set in for all of those who voted for the Conservative Rats yet? They are going to wake up and realize that all they did is vote for Pelosi and not the person they voted for.


5 posted on 11/10/2006 7:00:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: ilgipper

Those are now on display in a glass case on Pelosi's desk.


6 posted on 11/10/2006 7:00:20 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: Col. Bob

...and YOU gave her this power, America!

Great job!

Love,
bin Ladin

< /s >


7 posted on 11/10/2006 7:01:12 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Col. Bob

And we LOST TO THESE IDIOTS?


8 posted on 11/10/2006 7:03:37 AM PST by americafirst
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To: dc-zoo

Pelosi: We have no plans,ideas or clue what to do, but we know that it's all Bush's fault.


9 posted on 11/10/2006 7:04:02 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: zarf

Oh you would just love to see Nasty Pelosi as potus.


10 posted on 11/10/2006 7:04:48 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Col. Bob

Can you imagine her next San Fran wine tasting if she had said that Iraq is a war to win? The transvestites and American Al Queda from Marin County would have farted in her general direction.


11 posted on 11/10/2006 7:05:37 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: dc-zoo

I think Hillary will make sure of that. She wants to be president, and the first female president. So I think The President and Vice-President will be in power for two more years.


12 posted on 11/10/2006 7:06:36 AM PST by jsmaineconservative
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To: ilgipper

Hopefully the Reps and the Admin get thier balls back
Never thought they had any balls to begin with . The Dems have slammed and insulted us the last 2 years with little or no fighting back .


13 posted on 11/10/2006 7:06:54 AM PST by sonic109
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To: Col. Bob

No guys, we need to win the war against conservitive valuse. Thats the war American needs to foucuse on!

Silly Freeprs, that's what we should be doing /sarc


14 posted on 11/10/2006 7:08:18 AM PST by spaatzcadet
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To: Col. Bob
It still surprises me that so many people voted for this. The message was abundantly clear before the election that the Democrats do not consider this to be a war and have no thoughts one way or the other on whether we should win or lose.

However, the failure here is ours, not theirs.

There will be Democrats always. There will always be those who want to pull the sheets up over their heads and not face the unpleasantness of a difficult day. It is our job, as conservatives and Republicans, to educate the people, to tell them why we are at war and why we must win. Our party tried to avoid this subject because of the unpleasantness of the war. In the end, the majority of Americans decided that if the Republicans were not interested in defending the War, it must not really be that important.

Well, hindsight is 20/20, as they say. We must learn the lessons of our electoral defeat and start the hard work of convincing the American people that the unpleasantness of this war is worth it. This statement by Speaker-to-Be Pelosi is a great gift, because it lets us show, in sharp relief, where we differ from the Democrats.

We should not try to make gains by being almost-but-not-quite as opposed to the War as the Democrats. This position makes no sense at all, and the voters can see that. We have to show the American People who we are fighting against, how we are being effective, and how we will win. We must not minimize the potential for losses, but rather explain how these inevitable losses will be worth it to accomplish the great goal.

We are blessed with good enemies in this fight. The Islamic a$$holes are truly reprehensible in every way. If we cannot rally the American People against an enemy as manifestly evil as this, then there is nothing left of this country to defend, and we might as well go about making ourselves as comfortable as possible for whatever time we have left.

15 posted on 11/10/2006 7:08:19 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Take what I say with a grain of salt...)
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To: zarf
Regrettably, Fallujah is a prime example.

It took 3 incursion attempts before any control was established.

Latest reports are that insurgents are regaining control again there.

The administration keeps trying to apply a political/diplomatic settlement to the situation before they have won the war.

The same philosophy was applied to Israel's conflict with Hizbullah from the White House. As a result, Israel withdrew in defeat. [Why did they begin the conflict with Hizbulla? 2 captures soldiers. Note that those 2 soldiers are still captives, last I heard.]
16 posted on 11/10/2006 7:08:24 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Col. Bob

The only way this woman is going to change her mind is when AlQaida exterminates her home district.


17 posted on 11/10/2006 7:08:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: USF; Fred Nerks; Just A Nobody
Not a war to win Ping!

“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”
-Pelosi

18 posted on 11/10/2006 7:09:10 AM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: TomGuy
Until wars are fought with the mindset of reducing the enemy until the capitulate, regardless of the amount of blood spilled, this is all a waste of time.
19 posted on 11/10/2006 7:10:59 AM PST by zarf
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To: Col. Bob
“The point is this isn’t a war to win, it’s a situation to solve. And you define ‘winning’ any way you want, but you must solve this problem.”

Democrats do not take this war on terror seriously

One of many lessons the public will learn the hard way

20 posted on 11/10/2006 7:11:11 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: Col. Bob

IOW she wants the issue not the victory.


21 posted on 11/10/2006 7:11:23 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gridlock
We are blessed with good enemies in this fight. The Islamic a$$holes are truly reprehensible in every way. If we cannot rally the American People against an enemy as manifestly evil as this, then there is nothing left of this country to defend, and we might as well go about making ourselves as comfortable as possible for whatever time we have left.

Amen

22 posted on 11/10/2006 7:11:51 AM PST by Two-Bits (We take for granted the things that we should be giving thanks for.)
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To: Col. Bob

Pelosi plans to corner the burqa racket in the US.


23 posted on 11/10/2006 7:12:25 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Mo1
Democrats do not take this war on terror seriously

Is Bush? After 3.5 years we're still an escort service for the Iraqi's. That's being serious about war?

24 posted on 11/10/2006 7:13:41 AM PST by zarf
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To: dfwgator
Has "buyer's remorse" set in

I think that happened previously because they kept voting in Republicans and kept getting open-checkbook pork give-aways to the Country Club pals.

Republican control turned out to be a disappointment in many respects. Maybe the voters expected too much. But, there is an old saying: If you keep doing the same thing, don't expect a different result. Another vote for the Republican ticket was not going to provide a different result.

Maybe the GOP wakes up. If they don't before 08, they won't be in power for decades. They brought it on themselves.
25 posted on 11/10/2006 7:13:47 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Col. Bob

This war can't be won by feat arms short of genocide or Islamocide. Neither of which is tenable.


26 posted on 11/10/2006 7:14:20 AM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Mo1

Never thought I'd wish for a sequel to 9/11. But this kind of unimaginable idiocy makes me wonder...


27 posted on 11/10/2006 7:14:27 AM PST by karnage
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To: dc-zoo
Amen, Amen, AMEN!

A real magnificent bastard would have dragged these attitudes of Pelosi out into the open a long, long time ago. He would have made Dukakis look like Patton compared to her!

As giddy as Dems have been about winning, I haven't heard a single one say they think Pelosi is ready to be Commander-in-Chief or Leader of the Free World. This is a woman who would laugh off Bush's National Guard service but who lists her qualification to protect this country is being a grandmother!

28 posted on 11/10/2006 7:15:04 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Magnificent? NO. Bastard? YES!)
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To: TomGuy

Oh I don't disagree. And while the Republicans certainly deserved to get "fired." The problem is that normally when you fire somebody you have somebody better to replace them with, and that is not the case here.


29 posted on 11/10/2006 7:15:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Col. Bob

Perfectly predictable.

And perfectly awful.

It's natural to want to "stop the killing." But extremely naive to just pull out without a victory. Retreat and failure will signal to everyone, friend and foe alike, that America will not fight.

Many, many more Americans will die in the long run than would have otherwise.

I hope I'm wrong. I fear I'm right.


30 posted on 11/10/2006 7:16:24 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: L.N. Smithee
I haven't heard a single one say they think Pelosi is ready to be Commander-in-Chief or Leader of the Free World.

She isn't going to be, that role is reserved for 'Her Thighness.'

31 posted on 11/10/2006 7:16:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Col. Bob

I've noticed over the past two days that the 'Rats new buzz word for the war is "situation." I've already heard it a couple of times from their mouthpieces. Seems like they are setting themselves and everyone else up for abandoning the war in the name of good ol' fashion 1990s problem resolution. Pathetic!


32 posted on 11/10/2006 7:17:26 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: karnage

Well ,wish it for where you live then . I'm in the NYC area ans we already have a target on out arses . Another 9/11 ( God forbid ) wouldn't do anything anyway . The Dems would blame Bush and turn it all around. Americans , in general , are dunb as all hell and the Islamic sknow this .


33 posted on 11/10/2006 7:17:36 AM PST by sonic109
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To: Col. Bob

34 posted on 11/10/2006 7:17:37 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Col. Bob
Pelosi Says Iraq Is Not "a War To Win"

No wonder the Dem party kept her tied up and gagged in a shabby San Fran warehouse while Obama was on TV everywhere.

35 posted on 11/10/2006 7:17:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Hey Kerry, What part of showing heels and ass is a winning strategy in Iraq?)
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To: Col. Bob

The Dems are having Vietnam flashbacks. Enjoy it, America, this is what you voted for.


36 posted on 11/10/2006 7:18:12 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: onedoug

Nancy Pelosi should close her eyes and imagine thugs from a Sharia Court uprooting the vines in her precious Napa Valley vineyards. She should picture in her mind's eye the ax-wielding religious policeman as he hacks into seasoned oak casks bearing some of California's finest wines.

Then she should ask herself if this war is worth winning.


37 posted on 11/10/2006 7:19:05 AM PST by gridlock (My Prognosticator Unit is busted, and stuck on "ROSY". Take what I say with a grain of salt...)
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To: Col. Bob

If this is not a war to win bring the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan now. America's finest should not be fighting if they will not be allowed to win. This is now the Democrat's war and they are determined to lose it.


38 posted on 11/10/2006 7:19:34 AM PST by Mike Darancette ( Europe will either become Christian again or become Muslim. Not the "culture of nothing".)
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To: sonic109

Good point. I'm in LA. After 9/11, the studios all beefed up security - which I found laughable. Hollywood is Osama's best friend and primary propaganda tool.

If you are right about U.S. reaction to the next terror attack on American soil, then the war is over and we have lost.


39 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:13 AM PST by karnage
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To: Col. Bob

Time to throw up lunch!


40 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:15 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: Col. Bob
"The point is this isn’t a war to win..."

I'd be curious to find out what type of war this woman thinks America should win.

41 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:24 AM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: zarf
Until wars are fought with the mindset of reducing the enemy until the capitulate, regardless of the amount of blood spilled, this is all a waste of time.

Not quite. There is a dirty little secret about wars. They can be very profitable to certain non-governmental entities who have connections to those people in political power. And certain entities have profited greatly from the current wars.
42 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: muawiyah
Good morning.
"The only way this woman is going to change her mind is when AlQaida exterminates her home district."

Not even then. She would be safe in DC and, well, too bad for her constituents but it's Bush's fault after all.

Michael Frazier
43 posted on 11/10/2006 7:20:59 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: muawiyah
The only way this woman is going to change her mind is when AlQaida exterminates her home district.Nah! She will find a way to exploit the situation.
44 posted on 11/10/2006 7:21:29 AM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: jsmaineconservative

Maybe having Pelosi as the first female Speaker of the House is a strategy to soften up America for more female "leadership". We'll see how that works out, lol. I have my doubts.


45 posted on 11/10/2006 7:21:44 AM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: Col. Bob

Thanks Col. Bob. Too bad GW couldn't have said it in the same terms instead of PC garbage.


46 posted on 11/10/2006 7:22:24 AM PST by e_castillo
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To: dfwgator

And the way our system works, people couldn't vote any displeasure with our president's administration--so it hit the Congress, allowing President Bush to do even more of what gets people upset (spending, amnesty, etc.)


47 posted on 11/10/2006 7:22:55 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: americafirst
And we LOST TO THESE IDIOTS?

Makes you wonder why the GOP didn't try to exercise any discipline on e.g. Sen. Conrad Burns for his malaprops and taking all that money from Abramoff.

Seems to me that Cheney, Rove, and Frist should have been spending a significant chunk of their quality time slapping some sense into people like Burns and George Allen.

So much was riding on what those guys were doing and saying.....there was no room for error, no room for them to shoot their mouths off.

And we could have done a better job of sustaining Sen. Santorum, too.

48 posted on 11/10/2006 7:23:16 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: zarf

You are a fool


49 posted on 11/10/2006 7:23:17 AM PST by Mo1 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi is 2 heart beats away from the Presidency)
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To: zarf
"After 3.5 years we're still an escort service for the Iraqi's"

So true.

And this country seems to have adopted the the first rule of fighting a PC war, and that is to quote:

"It's not whether you win or lose a war,

It's how you fight the war that counts."

50 posted on 11/10/2006 7:23:17 AM PST by R_Kangel ("Please insert witty tag-line here")
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