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To: BurbankKarl

I've never been to LA or the Valley - but I guess I had always thought of the Valley has a white middle to upper middle class refuge from the rest of LA. Maybe I'm still stuck in a 80's mentality about that area.

Has the Valley deteriorated that badly?

What are the bad and good parts of the Valley?


8 posted on 11/10/2006 9:43:53 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Criminals go where the pickin's are easy. There ain't much to steal in metro any more. And the cops are too nasty in Torrance. So the Valley it is.


9 posted on 11/10/2006 9:45:25 AM PST by Seruzawa (Marx never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: MplsSteve

It used to be in the 80s. Now if you dont live south of Ventura Blvd, or north of the 118, you are in the free kill zone.


13 posted on 11/10/2006 9:47:28 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: MplsSteve

Most of the valley was white middle class in the 80s. The population was about 3.5 million. The crime rate was low. It was a pretty good place to live. Today it's morphed to a considerable hispanic populace. One can only surmise if they are legal or not. The crime rate is high. The signage often in Spanish.

I made the mistake of visiting a well known name brand store on Van Nuys Boulevard at Roscoe about eighteen months ago. It was about 6:00 p.m. Inside the signs were all in large letters, Spanish. Under that there was a small print English translation. It was a culture shock to be sure.

Van Nuys boulevard looks like a foreign country these days. A lot of the businesses have gone down hill.

I was warned later on not to go to that area after dark. It seems there's a very large gang presence and you're sticking your neck on the line if you do.

This is what the supporters of open borders on this forum are supporting for your area in the near future.

Oh excuse me, nobody here wants open borders. Just don't suggest a way to close them. "Those are all problematic."


23 posted on 11/10/2006 10:02:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: MplsSteve

There are many burglaries in the South Valley because there is stuff to steal and the laborers from the North Valley have a chance to case the neighborhoods while they are working on projects in the South.

Violence is predominately in the North and North East Valley where there the population is mostly Latino. There is the occasional shooting in the South. I'm not sure the shooters live there, but they are there for school (bussed in from the city) or other purposes.

There is a gang of robbers that probably come in from the city that hit restaurants along Ventura Bl, often taking not just the cash from the register, but robbing the patrons of their cash and jewelry.


26 posted on 11/10/2006 10:07:45 AM PST by LA Conservative (Clinton: The worst president we've ever had - The worst man we've ever had as President)
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To: MplsSteve

Has the Valley deteriorated that badly?

What are the bad and good parts of the Valley?""

1---Yes it has.

2---The good parts are getting smaller and smaller as I type this.

I lived there from 1966 to 1993. I won't even go back into my old neighborhood when I am forced to go there for whatever reason. The reasons have to get better and better, also.


46 posted on 11/10/2006 10:58:23 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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