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Today In History - November 10, 1975 - Edmund Fitzgeral sinks in Lake Superior storm
S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald Online ^ | 11/10/06

Posted on 11/10/2006 12:25:15 PM PST by MplsSteve

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To: MplsSteve

Why was it never recovered? How deep is Superior, anyway???


21 posted on 11/10/2006 12:57:53 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Why is easy listening music so hard to listen to??????
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I'm sure your question is a tad tongue in cheek, but my serious as a heart attack answer is that by definiton, easy listening music means the listener doesn't actually have to really listen to it, it's just pleasant background noise.

Good music (IMHO) requires something of the listener. Those who find easy listening music hard to listen to actually have music in their souls, and as a result, actually listen to the easy listening music and find it repulsive because it doesn't have any depth to it. Did you get all that?

It's a shame that a pretty good representative of the singer songwriter tradition has been co-opted so.


22 posted on 11/10/2006 12:58:24 PM PST by dmz
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To: MplsSteve
I always have a substantial sympathy for sailors lost at sea and their relatives. The sea and other large bodies of water have always been the favorite playgrounds of the grim reaper. There is no resolution or certainty in this kind of often sudden and lonely death.

But I can't for the life of me figure out why so much has been made of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It happened and that's all that matters. How and why are not relevant. The pathos of the ballad notwithstanding, there was nothing special about the ship, it's captain or crew.

23 posted on 11/10/2006 12:59:33 PM PST by Banjoguy (The words "Democrat" and democratic are not interchangable.)
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To: kinoxi

Why, you're almost unique with your 'rather eclectic' musical taste.

May the crew, good men and true, rest in peace.


24 posted on 11/10/2006 1:00:28 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: kinoxi

Gord's tunes have been covered by so many, you've probably heard quite a few of his tunes sung by others. Bluegrass guitarist extraordinaire Tony Rice did an entire record (showing my age) of his tunes.


25 posted on 11/10/2006 1:00:34 PM PST by dmz
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To: kinoxi

Check out his "Cold on the Shoulder" (pretty good...not overplayed)


26 posted on 11/10/2006 1:00:43 PM PST by spankalib
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To: dinoparty

>>>Why was it never recovered? How deep is Superior, anyway???<<<

I don't know what the deepest part of superior is but where the EF wreck is, it's 550ft.

I would guess that a steel hull filled with 26000 tons of iron ore would be a tall task to recover from 550 ft under.


27 posted on 11/10/2006 1:02:39 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

It wasn't an egotistical statement saying that I missed something.


28 posted on 11/10/2006 1:03:50 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, but he always sounded like his jaw had been wired shut...


29 posted on 11/10/2006 1:05:57 PM PST by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: kinoxi; dhuffman@awod.com

don't worry too much about Doug. He likes pi$$ing in other people's cheerios.


30 posted on 11/10/2006 1:09:30 PM PST by dmz
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To: HEY4QDEMS

The lake it is said never gives up her dead


31 posted on 11/10/2006 1:09:44 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: jagusafr

The ship broke in half in the middle as the front and rear were riding waves and the middle was left unsupported. Ver quick, very sad!


32 posted on 11/10/2006 1:12:21 PM PST by DoWhatsRight (Liberals are stark, raving hysterical...but I like it!)
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To: Alberta's Child

When you refer to "...water infiltrating the cargo hold...",
do you mean from the topside OR the bottom of the ship?

There's a theory that the Edmund Fitzgerald may have scraped across Six Fathom Shoal and started taking water from below.

The captain of the Arthur Anderson even commented that he thought the Fitz was a little too close to the shoal.

What do you think?


33 posted on 11/10/2006 1:18:06 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

Discovery, or some such channel, has a good documentary about it. Hope they show it tonight.


34 posted on 11/10/2006 1:19:47 PM PST by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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To: DoWhatsRight
For many years, I managed the bunker service out of Duluth/Superior. Ten years before I arrived, the captain of our lighter vessel put the last oil aboard the Ed Fitz when she left Superior, WI.
The regular cook was ill and couldn't make the trip so a substitute was brought up to meet the boat.
The new cook was a spooky character who happened to remark that he "soon would be in a better place."
35 posted on 11/10/2006 1:21:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MplsSteve

We had a moment of silence this morning in their memory.


36 posted on 11/10/2006 1:21:36 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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37 posted on 11/10/2006 1:21:37 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I feel sorry for the DJs at that station. Listening to Christmas music every day for 2 solid months probably ruins their enthusiasm for the holiday.


38 posted on 11/10/2006 1:21:39 PM PST by Huntress (Proud owner of Norman/Norma, the transsexual attack cat.)
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To: DoWhatsRight

I watched a docu on Discovery or History about how quick she went down. There are actually three theories that get serious consideration, the two wave theory as you described and similarly the one wave theory where the center of the ship was held aloft by the wave leaving the bow and stern suspended.

The third theory is that of a mega wave that the EF rode up and descended the other side so rapidly that the bow was driven to the bottom and struck the bottom with such force that the ship was snapped in two.

I personally am in the camp supporting the first two theories.


39 posted on 11/10/2006 1:22:39 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: kinoxi; dmz

'Rather eclectic' is modifying an absolute, like almost unique. Either words mean things or they do not.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people should be armed where they will, with wits and guns. NRA KMA


40 posted on 11/10/2006 1:27:29 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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