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Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 11, 2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by MadIvan

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To: rrrod
No more compassionate conservatism and no more Bush family.

You beat me to it. "Compassionate conservatism"=Liberalism.
41 posted on 11/11/2006 4:53:08 AM PST by madconserv (Jesus take the wheel- The time is here.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Nice thoughts and hopefully not wishful thinking.

I had always fantasized that the President was bluffing on 'Comprehensive' Amnesty for 20+ million illegals because he knew Hastert and Delay would keep it off the floor, which they did.

I had wishful thoughts that the President was 'triangulating a bluff'. But as I saw the sincerity of Tancredo and knowing that Bush Elder is a first order Globalist, I came back to reality.

The President, if he has any conscience of his allegiance to his Party will politely rebuff his father's directions and turn to help conservatives win back Congress. Again probable wishful thinking.


42 posted on 11/11/2006 4:53:46 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Dane
Now you are being silly,

Well, extreme, maybe, but not silly.

My point is: Let's be careful about excusing the President when he fails to lead because of popular opinion. That's a pretty slippery slope. The minimum wage issue is important to the small business owner. And, small business is a vital part of our economic engine.

43 posted on 11/11/2006 4:55:29 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: MadIvan

I am hopeful that divided government does what it does best - nothing. The American public is never safer than when Congress is out of session. The less meddling and regulaing that Congress can achieve, the freer we will all be.


44 posted on 11/11/2006 5:12:51 AM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: Dane
Young citizens & moms who probably account for most minimum wage jobs make choices based on their feelings, not reason. They are the ones who jump up and down with glee when Oprah puts a gift under the seats of her audience or gives away a car to each of her audience members. (Ever wonder why Oprah is so popular? She's like Publishers Clearing House - You never know - you might be the next winner on Oprah!)

Minimum wage laws passed by politicians who never had to make a payroll in a real business are 'gifts' to the voters. Gifts given from the pocket of small businesses. Bush will not fight it. Every voter wants to know, "What will you do for me?" Few voters think for the "good of all". It's a losing battle. The voters in this country want to be taken care of. Oprah takes care of her audience. Politicians take care of their voters.

45 posted on 11/11/2006 5:14:13 AM PST by carmody
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To: beyond the sea

"Impeachment for SPP (The Security and Prosperity Partnership) would be fine with me."

The time in NOW for the Republican party to unite in putting an end to the Open Borders Lobby, in spite of Bush's plans to move it forward. The security and sovereignty of our country depends on our motivation to do so. We cannot allow the OBL to dictate our future by passing their agenda in the spirit of bipartisan compromise, something the Pres of LaRaza has gleefully announced will happen now that Republicans are 'licking their wounds' from the loss.


46 posted on 11/11/2006 5:15:28 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: rrrod

"I voted for him twice...stuck by him thru all the shi'ite with overspending, Iraq rebuilding, open borders and so on...but enough is enough. No more compassionate conservatism and no more Bush family."

As did I. And so it would seem that the Bush family has succeeded in their intent:

"Our biggest challenge will be to separate my uncle from the rest of the Republican Party."

“‘This is a President who represents the diversity of our society, who we can count on to change the Republican Party to represent our views.’" … He told the rally his mother had instilled him the values of Cesar Chavez, the Chicano activist who fought for the rights of migrant farmworkers in the United States. ‘She told me we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us,’ he said in fluent Spanish.’

Right back atcha George P.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/865000/images/_865697_10_300.jpg


47 posted on 11/11/2006 5:22:35 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Hostage
President Bush is what he is. He is more Conservative than not, but he has some big government tendencies. He has never tried to hide from it and stated what his vision was during debates in two elections.

All that I have to do is compare my life TODAY, with what it would be like if we had endured 6 more years of dim control... my ability to buy an AR-15 or an AK and large capacity ammo clips, enjoy a thriving economy that has my three businesses making money for me and employees, my PAID FOR home on 24 Acres, My two new PAID FOR autos, partial birth abortion ban, two OUTSTANDING SCOTUS Justices, Afghanistan and Iraq set free, our Military killing hajis every day, our new alliances and cooperative networks fighting the WOT, NK forced back to the 6 party negotiations, VP Cheney, Laura Bush, The Patriot Act, NSA Terror Surveillance Program, Moon Base, Hubble being repaired, 2nd Amendment determined as an "Individual Right", the UN shown to be a festering puss boil of corruption, Bolton, Jeb Bush in Florida, GOD's presence in our government again and more money back in my pocket from tax cuts; I KNOW that President Bush has given me at least 70% of what I want in my government. What would hildebeast and company do for me???... for that I need KY lubricant!

LLS
48 posted on 11/11/2006 5:22:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: MadIvan

I fear Bush's "Great Opportunity" is American disaster.


49 posted on 11/11/2006 5:30:31 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Dane

>>Instead of blaming the President why don't you make
>>arguements to your fellow voters against the minimum wage.

I do so all the time. GWB has the bully pulpit, and is in a position to persuade others. Is it too much to ask that he remind the public of basic economic principles, to counteract the lib obfuscations?

The minimum wage is an unconstitutional usurpation of power by the feds. But since people believe that the federal government has this power, anyway: Raising the minimum wage does not make poor people better off, but it does trigger COLAs in union contracts. This will simply raise prices (i.e. inflation) while adding no net economic value.


50 posted on 11/11/2006 5:33:14 AM PST by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: beyond the sea

He said that in his press conference. He does NOT understand anything real about economics. He is a self proclaimed Keynesian which is a school of nonEconomics that studies and promulgates the ways that government can obtain and "justify" control over the economy for the purpose of controlling society.


51 posted on 11/11/2006 5:33:29 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: MadIvan

My big concern is AMNESTY for illegal aliens

Amnesty after paperwork is still Amnesty.


52 posted on 11/11/2006 5:34:55 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cb
That's because they are ignorant of the consequences of raising the minimum wage.

Exactly.

53 posted on 11/11/2006 5:38:59 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Kimberly GG

Where are those quotes from?


54 posted on 11/11/2006 5:42:16 AM PST by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: cb

>>>when the minimum wage is raised, democrat constituents are the ones hurt; so, why should a republican fight it?

This is not true. Small business would be a natural GOP constituency if the GOP leadership could articulate basic economics. Raising the min wage will hurt small businesspeople the most.


55 posted on 11/11/2006 5:44:58 AM PST by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: kinoxi
Historically blue was the Republican colour the same as blue is Conservative in Britain the media changed it to red.

You could say by wearing blue the President and VP were sending a signal that they are not going to let the media or dems "steal" anything else. :0)

Actually it surprises me that not more Republicans are upset with being stated as coming from red states after all elsewhere in the world that would be socialist.

So to me and the rest of the Conservative world blue ties are very much OK and to me and I suspect most people in the world have much more association with Conservatives/Republicans than Democrat. You could say a smart move. Keep it up Mr President and your able Vice President.

56 posted on 11/11/2006 5:46:12 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: rrrod

Another I voted for him 2 times but.

He is the same man you voted for in 2000 and 2004 (if you did) and has more principles than most.

He like the rest of us is human and may say and do things that are not 100% correct but think of the alternative well in a way you have the alternative and he is the one that is going to suffer more as a consequence.

You people are the ones wimping out not the President.


57 posted on 11/11/2006 5:50:38 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: Dane

LOL


58 posted on 11/11/2006 5:51:41 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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To: MadIvan

That would require keen insight. GW is lacking in this department. The game is over.


59 posted on 11/11/2006 5:54:10 AM PST by libbybelle
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To: LibLieSlayer
Agreed on the surface he has to be consolatory and even in private has to work with these people but that does not mean he agrees with them or what their aims are.

He will chip away and have small victories some we will never even know about.
60 posted on 11/11/2006 5:55:40 AM PST by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME))
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