Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'

Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush.

Really? From where will this "pressure" come? From the media? Ha! From the leftist base of the Democrat Party?! Ha!

If it comes at all, it will come from conservative voters deluded into voting for Democrats. And that is a fairly small number.

"Like it or not the minimum wage is popular with voters and gets huge margins when put to the voters."

Just goes to show that the people who vote for it don't know what the effect is, or don't care. The minimum wage passed here in Missouri last week, and beginning Jan. 1, it will be $6.50. The only entity that will benefit in the long run is the government, as payroll taxes will be increased.

Carolyn

Barack Obama??? LOL! I presume that person is no longer with us........at least I HOPE not.

Although I've seen some similar stuff from people as far back as '98.

Makes me think they're Hillary infiltrators from when her HINO was in the Oval Office and they've been under rocks since then and just pop out when they think they can go unnoticed..

Some of these people seriously cannot be conservatives. And we are noticing them....

Facts don't mean a thing, polly. Just angry, hate-filled rhetoric.

Where am I mistaken on my facts? We are losing the fence, and the Democrats (with the support of Bush are moving ahead with amnesty...Amnesty converts to voters)
Rather than insult me and call me names I wish you would simply respond to my points. So I repeat...which of those 2 things are not facts? Also, why do you define my statements as "hate filled" I would define them as frustrated & a little demoralized.

Sigh. The Bush plan is not an amnesty plan as some folks want you to believe, so that is NOT a fact. In addition, there will never be a widespread deportation program in this country because it is not feasible. Instead, common sense alternatives have been proposed. As a response, some have chosen to go postal on the President. The hatred spewed from the far right is as untethered from reality as that from the left. Many of us find it profoundly disconcerting.

More to the point of your original post...painting all Hispanics as nonconservative is a pretty broad brush. I know many Hispanics who are more closely aligned with the fundamental belief system of conservatives than liberalism. Unfortunately, many of them have been VERY put off by the us vs. them race-based rhetoric and the blurring of the line between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants. You can argue loudly that this isn't the case, but since perception is reality...we've got a problem with folks who should, and could, be voting with us, not against us.

If you had called them ILLEGAL immigrants in your post (no matter their country of origin) I would not have disagreed or called your position into question. Instead you called them Hispanics which suggests you have a problem with a certain kind of immigrants. That may not have been your intent, but I can see why those who could vote with us on the facts, instead get frightened by the language. And when we say "Hispanics" it essentially gives ammunition to those who believe that conservatives are some sort of racist community.

Illegal immigration is a complex, difficult issue that did not start with this President and will not stop with this administration...even if Tancredo himself was elected to the position. Beware those who offer cheap, easy and quick fixes, because are selling you cotton candy and calling it a filling meal of cornbread and stew. There are many, many more considerations at stake, including the influence of Venezuela. There are those who have looked carefully at history and understand there is much, much more to this issue than just putting up a wall.

We are losing the fence because of swing voters and ubercons who wanted to 'teach the GOP a lesson.'

We are NOT losing the fence because of President Bush.

And he has NO plan to replace us with hispanics. That was an absurd comment and your conversation with me is OVER.

Bash to your little heart's delight. I'm not coming back for it. I respect the President even though I disagree with him on this issue, and I have NO tolerance for the hysteria that misrepresents his position for effect.

I'm DONE here, Nav.

I hope you are correct. But mind you, I am one of the voters on here who was stunned by the Democrat take over.
I voted straight ticket (R) and the fact that the democrats won on absolutely zero platform was a huge blow.
You speak of a "common sense" alternative...What exactly is that? And I repeat, I have not spewed hatred, I have "spewed" frustration & confusion. For that I have been called a Troll and hysterical. So I ask you, who in fact is "spewing hate" ?

I don't really want to get into a spewing hate" battle, which would be a monumental waste of time for both of us. And if it makes you feel any better, I personally was called a troll earlier today. So it goes.

I understand your frustration and confusion, and I'm sorry you didn't see this loss coming. You certainly had to know it was a possibility watching the discussions around here. I never give in to thinking we are going to lose before we actually do...but we ALWAYS have to KNOW it is possible. Every single election, every single candidate. Never forget that and it will never come as a surprise. Frankly it's shocking that it took until year six for it to happen to this administration. It only took two, with much more serious damage, during the Clinton years! We are very fortunate.

This border issue is a topic that has been discussed forever around here. Rather than rehashing old material, I strongly suggest you do some research of your own. And be sure to actually read the primary source material, not just the comments. I've been caught in that trap before myself. LOL.

Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for! Have a great evening.

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