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Bush is seeking to turn 'thumping' into a 'great opportunity'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | November 11, 2006 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/11/2006 4:08:13 AM PST by MadIvan

On the morning after the mid-term elections, a humbled President George W Bush called it "a thumping".

But yesterday he described the disastrous result for the Republicans, when Congress turned from Republican red to Democrat blue, as a "great opportunity".

His aides were briefing that he now had the chance to build a domestic policy legacy and use his final two years in the White House to prove that politicians could get things done in Washington.

After a White House coffee meeting yesterday, Mr Bush chuckled as Senator Dick Durbin, part of the new Democratic leadership in the Senate, joked: "I do want to say thanks personally to the president and vice-president for their conciliatory gesture by wearing blue ties today.

"From our side, we think that is a symbolic indication."

Conservative Republicans and wary Democrats fear that Mr Bush might indeed try to steal the Democrats' clothes. "They talked about issues that people care about, and they won," he told the senators.

As a lame-duck president after years of poor relations with Democrats who were bitter about being frozen out of the decision-making process, turning opportunity into legislative reality will be one of the biggest challenges of Mr Bush's political career.

The message from the voters was that they rejected one-party rule in Washington and wanted to see whether divided government could lead to the kind of results Mr Bush was unable to achieve when Republicans were the kings of Capitol Hill.

Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush. The president will want to leave office with achievements under his belt and use his power of veto sparingly.

"The Democrats should adopt a good government strategy rather than a take-no-prisoners strategy," said Senator Birch Bayh, a Democrat who served in the Senate for 18 years.

He believed that Republicans in Congress would adopt a new approach. "They've gotten the signal that people didn't like what was going on, that the well was poisoned. They're not going to be bomb throwers."

In 1996, President Bill Clinton and a Republican-controlled Senate and House of Representatives introduced a welfare reform Bill that became a landmark piece of social legislation. Both parties claimed credit for it. Republican presidents have also signed legislation sent to them by Democratic houses of Congress.

To the dismay of conservative Republicans, Mr Bush has already indicated that he agrees with the Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage. But the centrepiece of his last 24 months in office could be a comprehensive overhaul of America's immigration laws.

His desire for tough border security measures combined with opportunities for many of America's 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens is shared by more Democrats than Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Gardner Peckham, a senior aide to Newt Gingrich, speaker of the House after the Republican takeover of Capitol Hill in 1994, said: "Democrats will have to be very careful not to appear like they're looking backwards and wanting retribution.

"They won't want to look like they're the source of the problem. But they're not going to want the president to look good on any of these issues. The prize is the White House in 2008. Control of Congress is great, but without the White House you can't control the agenda."

Immigration, he suggested, would be "an interesting test" of whether genuine cooperation was possible.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; capitulation; democrats; election; immigration
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To: MadIvan
Having been swept into power on the backs of their condemnation of a "do-nothing Congress", there will be pressure on Democrats to demonstrate that they can do business with Mr Bush.

Really? From where will this "pressure" come? From the media? Ha! From the leftist base of the Democrat Party?! Ha!

If it comes at all, it will come from conservative voters deluded into voting for Democrats. And that is a fairly small number.

281 posted on 11/16/2006 11:31:46 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Dane
"Like it or not the minimum wage is popular with voters and gets huge margins when put to the voters."

Just goes to show that the people who vote for it don't know what the effect is, or don't care. The minimum wage passed here in Missouri last week, and beginning Jan. 1, it will be $6.50. The only entity that will benefit in the long run is the government, as payroll taxes will be increased.

Carolyn

282 posted on 11/16/2006 11:39:37 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: pollyannaish
Barack Obama??? LOL! I presume that person is no longer with us........at least I HOPE not.

Although I've seen some similar stuff from people as far back as '98.

Makes me think they're Hillary infiltrators from when her HINO was in the Oval Office and they've been under rocks since then and just pop out when they think they can go unnoticed..

Some of these people seriously cannot be conservatives. And we are noticing them....

283 posted on 11/16/2006 2:04:38 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan; pollyannaish
Facts don't mean a thing, polly. Just angry, hate-filled rhetoric.

Where am I mistaken on my facts? We are losing the fence, and the Democrats (with the support of Bush are moving ahead with amnesty...Amnesty converts to voters)
Rather than insult me and call me names I wish you would simply respond to my points. So I repeat...which of those 2 things are not facts? Also, why do you define my statements as "hate filled" I would define them as frustrated & a little demoralized.
284 posted on 11/16/2006 4:18:15 PM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: Nav_Mom
Sigh. The Bush plan is not an amnesty plan as some folks want you to believe, so that is NOT a fact. In addition, there will never be a widespread deportation program in this country because it is not feasible. Instead, common sense alternatives have been proposed. As a response, some have chosen to go postal on the President. The hatred spewed from the far right is as untethered from reality as that from the left. Many of us find it profoundly disconcerting.

More to the point of your original post...painting all Hispanics as nonconservative is a pretty broad brush. I know many Hispanics who are more closely aligned with the fundamental belief system of conservatives than liberalism. Unfortunately, many of them have been VERY put off by the us vs. them race-based rhetoric and the blurring of the line between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigrants. You can argue loudly that this isn't the case, but since perception is reality...we've got a problem with folks who should, and could, be voting with us, not against us.

If you had called them ILLEGAL immigrants in your post (no matter their country of origin) I would not have disagreed or called your position into question. Instead you called them Hispanics which suggests you have a problem with a certain kind of immigrants. That may not have been your intent, but I can see why those who could vote with us on the facts, instead get frightened by the language. And when we say "Hispanics" it essentially gives ammunition to those who believe that conservatives are some sort of racist community.

Illegal immigration is a complex, difficult issue that did not start with this President and will not stop with this administration...even if Tancredo himself was elected to the position. Beware those who offer cheap, easy and quick fixes, because are selling you cotton candy and calling it a filling meal of cornbread and stew. There are many, many more considerations at stake, including the influence of Venezuela. There are those who have looked carefully at history and understand there is much, much more to this issue than just putting up a wall.
285 posted on 11/16/2006 6:09:13 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Nav_Mom
We are losing the fence because of swing voters and ubercons who wanted to 'teach the GOP a lesson.'

We are NOT losing the fence because of President Bush.

And he has NO plan to replace us with hispanics. That was an absurd comment and your conversation with me is OVER.

Bash to your little heart's delight. I'm not coming back for it. I respect the President even though I disagree with him on this issue, and I have NO tolerance for the hysteria that misrepresents his position for effect.

I'm DONE here, Nav.

286 posted on 11/16/2006 6:23:47 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: pollyannaish
Well said, polly.

The hysteria on this issue cost us the House and the Senate, IMO.

And because of that, we lost the fence.

287 posted on 11/16/2006 6:25:21 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: pollyannaish

I hope you are correct. But mind you, I am one of the voters on here who was stunned by the Democrat take over.
I voted straight ticket (R) and the fact that the democrats won on absolutely zero platform was a huge blow.
You speak of a "common sense" alternative...What exactly is that? And I repeat, I have not spewed hatred, I have "spewed" frustration & confusion. For that I have been called a Troll and hysterical. So I ask you, who in fact is "spewing hate" ?


288 posted on 11/16/2006 7:36:50 PM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: Nav_Mom

I don't really want to get into a spewing hate" battle, which would be a monumental waste of time for both of us. And if it makes you feel any better, I personally was called a troll earlier today. So it goes.

I understand your frustration and confusion, and I'm sorry you didn't see this loss coming. You certainly had to know it was a possibility watching the discussions around here. I never give in to thinking we are going to lose before we actually do...but we ALWAYS have to KNOW it is possible. Every single election, every single candidate. Never forget that and it will never come as a surprise. Frankly it's shocking that it took until year six for it to happen to this administration. It only took two, with much more serious damage, during the Clinton years! We are very fortunate.

This border issue is a topic that has been discussed forever around here. Rather than rehashing old material, I strongly suggest you do some research of your own. And be sure to actually read the primary source material, not just the comments. I've been caught in that trap before myself. LOL.

Good luck and I hope you find what you are looking for! Have a great evening.


289 posted on 11/16/2006 8:01:46 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: MadIvan

If I am not mistaken, I believe that President Bush tried to work with the Democrats when he was first elected.

In fact, if memory serves me right, he appointed a Democrat to his Cabinet and let Ted Kennedy write part or all of his education bill a/k/a as No Child Left Behind Act.

Are you aware of the results of these attempts?


290 posted on 11/16/2006 8:09:26 PM PST by sport
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To: pollyannaish

Thank You
I will take your suggestions~
Pray for the Troops.


291 posted on 11/18/2006 9:55:31 AM PST by Nav_Mom
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To: ohioWfan
We are NOT losing the fence because of President Bush.


You mean the fence bill that Chef Jorge Big Spender resisted but finally signed after intense pressure from the base 2 weeks before the election ?

The fence bill with no funding, no start date and no contracters?
292 posted on 11/18/2006 10:10:59 AM PST by Blackirish
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