[RodgerD]

He will chip away and have small victories some we will never even know aboutz

Pathetic fantasy. Not even worthy of a "toaster" on that photo thread/sewing circle.

Your Bush has spent four days crowing about how now he can finally get his leftist immigration plans in action. Next year he's going to sign into law a massive explosion in third world migration that will permanently kill American conservatism, effectively merge the USA with Mexico, and generally speed our homeland's slide into the abyss.

[snugs]

Our photo thread/sewing circle is far more grounded than many others around here.

We are realistic that a President is not going to please everyone 100% of the time and that ultra conservative issues will turn 80% of the population off.

I am a Conservative in both senses party and philosophy but I am sensible enough to know that at present an ultra conservative agenda is not what the people at large want. You and your kind rant on about the government not telling you what to do but that is exactly what you want to do. You think you know what is best for them following your agenda in my book that makes you no difference from the average liberal except your follow a different belief.

My party leader David Cameron in liberal on most issues but if he can get the Conservative Party re-elected in Britain then I support him 100%, you can achieve nothing if you do not have power. An ultra right wing conservative agenda is never going to give you power in 2006 either side of the water.