[syriacus]

We lost 30,000 American lives in Korea, under Democratic President Harry Truman, in 3 years.

We've lost 3,000 American lives in Iraq, under Bush, in approximately the same period of time.

[Seruzawa]

It took Eisenhower to end that conflict... sort of.

[DB]

And millions of South Koreans are still free.

[uncbob]

It was Truman and his incompetent State department that caused the war to begin with

[syriacus]

Another source good for Iraq-Korea comparisons

NSC 68: United States Objectives and Programs for National Security, April 14, 1950

A Report to the President Pursuant to the President’s Directive of January 31, 1950 [Top secret]

our determination to fight if necessary to defend our way of life, for which as in the Declaration of Independence, "with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor." [snip]

The assault on free institutions is world-wide now, and in the context of the present polarization of power a defeat of free institutions anywhere is a defeat everywhere.[snip]

we must with our allies and the former subject peoples seek to create a world society based on the principle of consent.

[syriacus]

Truman said: "I know that our fighting men can count on each and every one of you. "

This is no longer true.

[Fiji Hill]

In 1951, our troops had turned back the Communists and were marching northward. However, Truman agreed to peace talks and halted the advance. Over the next two years, we lost far more men during those peace talks than we did during the previous year of fighting.

Had Truman told General Ridgway to continue advancing northward against the Communists, who had already suffered heavy losses, we might have united the country or gained a far more favorable peace. Then the GOP would not have been able to use Korea as a campaign issue in 1952--and there would be no North Korean nuclear threat today.

[Polybius]

We lost 30,000 American lives in Korea, under Democratic President Harry Truman, in 3 years. We've lost 3,000 American lives in Iraq, under Bush, in approximately the same period of time.

And, 56 years later, the Democrats have yet to offer an "exit strategy" to withdraw U.S. troops from Korea.

[HitmanLV]

That is the goal we seek not only for ourselves, but for all people. We believe that freedom and peace are essential if men are to live as our Creator intended us to live. It is this faith that has guided us in the past, and it is this faith that will fortify us in the stern days ahead

The problem is more and more people just don't believe it. A president with better communication skills would have helped keep them on message. Dubya spent 1/2 of 2005 and all of 2006 not making a particularly good or convincing case for anything.

Keep this in mind for election 2008.

[BurbankKarl]

we never won Korea