[Colonel Kangaroo]

That's appropriate. That'll be just about the same time the democrats complete the total restructuring of our republic into one federal state -- the culmination of the process started by Lincoln.

The process started with southern Democrat Woodrow Wilson, not Lincoln. There is a middle ground between unconstitutional centralization and decentralized chaos instigated as a power grab by a narrow group of politicians. Lincoln preserved that middle ground. He saved the nation from chaos and defended the people against the politicians.

"The great popular heart is not now and never has been in this war. It was a revolution of the politicians, not the people."

~Confederate Governor Zebulon Vance of North Carolina

[Lee'sGhost]

I know what kind of thread this is, but you can't be serious!

The "narrow group of politicians" you refer to was almost the entire population of the South. And speaking of "chaos" the War for Southern Independence was THE most chaotic episode in our history. What would have resulted if Lincoln had not gone to war would have been the opposite of chaos.

[Corin Stormhands]

The process started with southern Democrat Woodrow Wilson, not Lincoln.

FWIW, we Virginians only claim Wilson as necessary to retain (for a while at least) the title "Mother of Presidents."

Other than that, we tell people he was from New Jersey.