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To: Dane

This article is baloney. All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans.


3 posted on 11/14/2006 3:38:38 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Baloney, Many many people care about this issue. Even a lot of the leftest liberals are ticked off with open boarders.


5 posted on 11/14/2006 3:44:53 PM PST by Revel
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So Dewine, the pro amnesty Sen lost, and Hostetler was out manuevered by a even stronger anti illegal candidate so it would seem to me the myth is quite dead.

We need a broad discussion on the subject..badly.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 3:45:10 PM PST by padre35
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To: Peach
All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost.

So did a lot of Republicans who didn't make immigration an issue.

I believe the immigration/open borders/amnesty issue would have been a winner for Republicans. But, the Republicans lacked a clear message, party discipline and the courage to bring this issue, in particular, to the forefront.

It's simmering out there, and the Party that gets it "right", will be the majority party in 2008.

10 posted on 11/14/2006 3:54:11 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Peach

Tancredo lost?


20 posted on 11/14/2006 4:27:05 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Peach
This article is baloney. All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans.

Lies! Lies! Lies!

Filling in for the Howler?

Question: Do you believe illegal immigration poses a threat to the United States? Undecided 4% Yes 71% No 24%

"Compared to other problems facing the country, how big a problem is illegal immigration? Would you say it is one of the most important problems facing the country, or is it an important problem but not one of the most important, or is it not all that important, or is it not important at all?"

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One of Most
Important
Important Not All That
Important
Not Important
At All
 
% % % %  

6/24-27/06

32 55 8 5  

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FRom here.


28 posted on 11/14/2006 4:38:10 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Peach
"This article is baloney. All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans."

Where have you been the last couple of years. Republicans lost across the board and Democrats stole this issue from many of them, otherwise they would have called Hayworth and the others, racist and mean spirited instead of being strongly in support of immigration enforcement. Don't the ballot initiatives tell you anything?

35 posted on 11/14/2006 5:23:44 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Peach

Peach, with due respect, did you read this part of the article:

"Also in Arizona, pro-amnesty/guest-worker proponents like to point to the Hayworth loss and the loss of pro-enforcement candidate Randy Graf in the 8th District, as a referendum on the immigration issue. However, they fail to mention four immigration ballot initiatives that Arizonian’s passed overwhelmingly, including making English Arizona’s official language (74%), denying bail to illegal aliens (78%), barring illegal aliens from winning punitive damages (74%), and denying in-state college tuition to illegal immigrants (72%). These are impressive numbers for any ballot initiatives, especially considering the supposed “divisive” nature of the immigration debate. Evidently, nearly three quarters of Arizona voters are “mean-spirited.” "

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I've even heard that Heyworth's opponet LIED and said he too, was for enforcing border security. Not sure if that's true, but he lied about so much concerning Heyworth, I wouldn't doubt he lied about the illegal issue too. Arizona's citizens are very concerned about the illegal issue and that a fact. The GOP did NOT support Graft, which was a serious mistake, imho. It costs us Kolbe's former seat.

Peach, I almost always agree with your views, but not on this one, concerning Arizona. Illegal immigration was a top priority for AZ's voters.


38 posted on 11/14/2006 6:14:10 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: Peach
This article is baloney. All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans.

So you are saying that Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Duncan Hunter lost?

44 posted on 11/14/2006 6:38:41 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Peach
All the staunch border enforcement Republicans lost. And the issue has never polled above 10% of concerns for Americans.

Did you forget a sarcasm tag? You can't be serious. Why keep spreading such blatant lies? WHY? Every poll, and you've seen them disputes your assertion

Of the Republicans who lost in this election: only 6.7% of those losing were anti-immigration (in Tancredo's caucus)

34.9 % of those who lost, however, were pro-Amnesty and supported Bush's pro-Amnesty plan.

Conservative News conservativenewsnyc@yahoo.com

We have some very important information for you below. There is a ton of misinformation in the media, both by liberals (e.g. Pelosi) and neocons (e.g. Bill Kristol, Linda Chavez). They are being dishonest about the election and immigration. Every single exit poll shows that voters voted against Republicans in this election because (1) the war in Iraq (2) corruption and (3) (in some states) free trade

It had nothing to do with immigration. In fact, if the GOP had been more anti-immigration and did not have a President who cares more about amnesty than hard-working Americans, the GOP would have done better.

Of the Republicans who lost in this election: only 6.7% of those losing were anti-immigration (in Tancredo's caucus) 34.9 % of those who lost, however, were pro-Amnesty and supported Bush's pro-Amnesty plan. (These people received a grade of D or lower on their Immigration Report Cards)

53 posted on 11/15/2006 8:13:48 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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