Posted on 11/15/2006 2:20:23 AM PST by xtinct
Rudy's a local politician who has held a local office in a state that is entirely unrepresentative of the US as a whole.
Rudy has had some extremely messy divorce issues, which the Dems won't put on tv and ads until he's nominated. Goodbye evangelical vote. Rudy's positions on life and homo marriage have been extreme left. Goodbye social conservative vote (which isn't the same as evangelical vote, though there's crossover.
Rudy's history on guns is not good. Goodbye rural vote.
Long and short of it: If rudy is nominated, Hillary wins. But because of all these deficiencies, Rudy won't survive the Republican primaries.
You're right. He didn't have the backbone to run against Hillary as Senator - did he think he'd lose? I don't see him getting the presidential nomination to run against her.
This is exactly the wrong lesson to be learned. Moving away from conservative principles is only going to elect more RATS.
For one thing, I think he had prostate cancer.
And who would want to be a stinkin' Senator if they think they could be President?
Senators rarely get elected President.
Rudy or else? The GOP will have learned nothing at all.
What do you mean? He withdrew from the Senate race. I don't understand your reference; would you please explain?
Morally, I just don't think I could vote for any candidate who supported partial birth abortion. I understand, I think, the arguments pro and con Giuliani from a strategic/governing perspective. If the choice came down to Hillary Clinton or Giuliani, I guess I was prepared to hold my nose to the point of asphyxiation and vote for Giuliani. However, if he supports partial birth abortion, I just cannot bring myself to cast a vote for him.
More Senators have been elected than mayors. Nobody's ever been elected whose only previous post was mayor.
Rudy is not for gay marriage - he is for civil unions, and in any case - it would all be decided in the states. Basically, that's the status quo right now in this country.
abortion is his biggest problem.
he's not pro-life. however, that doesn't tell us what kind of judges he would pick. and that's the key to the abortion issue at the federal level - the judges.
let's face it, republican pro-life presidents NEVER appoint strict anti-abortion judges. they duck it, appoint "constitutionalist" judges, who duck all the abortion questions at the hearings, and leave it to us to read between the lines on how they will vote on the court regarding this issue.
could Rudy do the same thing? sure he could.
Imagine that!!!
I suppose he figures that a former Federal prosecutor and two-term Mayor of a city that has a higher population than thirty-eight states (right between North Carolina and Virginia) doesn't need to run for the Senate first.
I don't think he'll win, but he has as much right as the next guy to run.
Yes it is, and he's going to be the next president.
BTTT
Brainwashed treasonous Commie McCain is as much a threat to national sovereignty as Jimmy Lillylivered Carter.
No wonder mainstream media (msm) loves Commie McCain.
Yep. He's got the votes of all in our family as well, as our son will be old enough to vote by 2008. The single-issue voters will continue to be single-issue voters and will never be happy with any candidate who has a chance in '08. I believe that only Rudy has enough pull with everyone else to pull it off.
BTTT, see #13 oh, and also, he's a gun-grabber.
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But here it is easy to disagree with Rudy and his admirers. He has no chance of winning the Republican nomination, and, even if he did, he would not make a good president. His views on core cultural issues are too radical.
Giuliani is not just pro-abortion, he is pro-partial-birth abortion. He has not flinched from defending the legality of the gruesome practice that the late Democratic Sen. Patrick Moynihan of New York described “as close to infanticide.”
“I am pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said in 1999, when he was contemplating a Senate campaign. When a reporter asked if he at least favored a ban on partial-birth abortion, Giuliani said, “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”
Giuliani’s pro-gay rights position is so extreme, he advocated stripping away the special legal status of traditional marriage. In 1998, he pushed a municipal ordinance that wiped out all distinctions between married and unmarried couples in New York City law, regardless of their gender.
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I agree with you. I hope some dark horse candidate will emerge. We will lose with both McCain and with Rudy.
I have no idea who you are quoting, or why you pinged me.
The possibility of Rudy or McCain winning in the South are between slim and none and slim has left the building.
So it's Hillary, then.
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