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Annan criticizes global warming doubters
AP on Yahoo ^ | 11/15/06 | Charles J. Hanley - ap

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:15:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge

NAIROBI, Kenya - Secretary-General Kofi Annan told the U.N. conference on climate change Wednesday that those who would deny global warming or delay taking action against it are "out of step" and "out of time."

"Let no one say we cannot afford to act," Annan declared. The United States is among those who contend that reducing global-warming gases would set back economies too much.

The U.N. chief lamented "a frightening lack of leadership" in fashioning next steps in reducing global emissions. "I would want leaders around the world to really show courage and to know that if they do, their people and the voters will be with them," he told reporters after his speech.

The chief U.S. delegate, at a later news conference, countered that Washington has been a leader with "groundbreaking initiatives" on clean-energy technology.

Hundreds of delegates from some 180 member nations of the 1992 U.N. climate treaty were entering the final three days of their two-week annual meeting, where they've been working on technical issues involving the Kyoto Protocol, which obliges 35 industrial nations to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases by 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012.

The United States and Australia are the only major industrialized countries to reject that 1997 treaty annex. U.S. President George W. Bush says it would harm the U.S. economy, and it should have required cutbacks in poorer nations as well.

Scientists attribute at least some of the past century's 0.6-degree-Celsius (1-degree-Fahrenheit) rise in global temperatures to the atmospheric accumulation of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases, byproducts of power plants, automobiles and other fossil fuel-burning sources. Continued temperature rises could seriously disrupt the climate, they say.

In his address, the U.N. chief referred to a recent British government report projecting that unimpeded global warming — with its predicted rising seas, droughts and other climate disruptions — could cost between 5 percent and 20 percent of global gross domestic product each year.

"It is increasingly clear it will cost far less to cut emissions now than to deal with the consequences later," Annan said.

He said the science on climate change "is not science fiction." Those who try to sow doubt about it are "out of step, out of arguments and out of time," he said.

At her news conference, Paula J. Dobriansky, a U.S. undersecretary of state, stressed U.S. efforts in developing clean-energy technology in partnership with other countries.

"We must act in ways that encourage economic growth," she said.

Asked about Annan's criticism of poor international leadership on climate, Dobrianksy replied, "We think the United States has been leading with its groundbreaking initiatives."

Closed-door talks here are focusing on how to set emissions quotas for the post-2012 period — a regime others hope will include the United States, the biggest emitter. Cabinet ministers from around the world were arriving here for high-level bargaining on such key issues.

At best, however, the conference may simply set a timetable for continuing talks into next year. Many here think real negotiations must await the end of the Bush administration.

"The United States will return to the negotiating table with a serious proposal when a new president takes office in 2009," said veteran conference observer Philip Clapp.

Clapp, president of the U.S. group National Environmental Trust, noted that Democratic and Republican contenders in the 2008 presidential election favor capping U.S. emissions.

Other climate campaigners oppose this strategy of marking time.

"That won't work. It would allow the U.S. to hold the negotiations hostage," said Hans Verolme, Dutch spokesman for Climate Action Network, an alliance of environmentalist groups.

Verolme expressed concern that too many years of negotiating and seeking government ratification of a new agreement would leave a gap after 2012.

"The carbon market is beginning to lose confidence in this process," he said.

A multibillion-dollar market has emerged in which European Union countries, obligated under Kyoto, buy and sell "carbon credits." Companies overshooting their emissions quotas can buy carbon credits from more energy-efficient enterprises that don't use all their allowances.

At the same time, another market is growing in projects that reduce greenhouse-gas emissions in developing countries, which are not obligated under Kyoto but which can sell such credits to industrial nations.

If it appears the Kyoto regime will end without an immediate successor, it would shatter business confidence in the future of those markets and cause carbon prices to collapse.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annan; criticizes; doubters; globalwarming

U.N Secretary-General Kofi Annan address a media conference, Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Nairobi, Kenya. Secretary-General Kofi Annan told the U.N. conference on climate change Wednesday that it's clear it will cost far less to cut greenhouse-gas emissions now 'than to deal with the consequences later.'(AP Photo/Khalil Senosi)


1 posted on 11/15/2006 7:15:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

A delegate from Iran listen to U.N Secretary-General Kofi Annan as he address delegates Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Nairobi, Kenya. Secretary-General Kofi Annan told the U.N. conference on climate change Wednesday that it's clear it will cost far less to cut greenhouse-gas emissions now 'than to deal with the consequences later.'(AP Photo/Karel Prinsloo)


2 posted on 11/15/2006 7:17:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Let no one say we cannot afford to act," Annan declared

We cannot afford to act on junk science.

3 posted on 11/15/2006 7:18:02 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Rudy is better than McCain and Hillary)
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To: NormsRevenge

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan addresses delegates Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006 at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Nairobi, Kenya. Secretary-General Kofi Annan told the U.N. conference on climate change Wednesday that it's clear it will cost far less to cut greenhouse-gas emissions now 'than to deal with the consequences later.'(AP Photo/Karel Prinsloo)


4 posted on 11/15/2006 7:18:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, cuz that's the REAL enemy. Mother Nature!! We've got to stop her before she strikes us on American soil. /sarc


5 posted on 11/15/2006 7:19:12 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Graphic with world maps detailing the implications of predicted increases in global temperatures, as environment ministers from around the world gather in Nairobi, Kenya. Citing "a frightening lack of leadership" to tackle climate change, UN chief Kofi Annan has demanded world leaders give global warming the same priority as they did to wars and to curbing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.(AFP/Graphic/Martin Megino)


6 posted on 11/15/2006 7:19:13 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

""The carbon market is beginning to lose confidence in this process," he said."

And this is the crux of the matter and why they want everyone to sign on.

It's not a 'saving the earth' treaty, but a 'money making' treaty.

If they were really serious about 'Global Warming' then selling carbon 'credits' between countries would never enter the picture.

Not only that, but how does selling carbon 'credits' help the environment?

It doesn't. It's a 'money' game. Plain and simple.


7 posted on 11/15/2006 7:20:32 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NormsRevenge
Annan has demanded world leaders give global warming the same priority as they did to wars and to curbing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

What an irrelevant azzhat!

8 posted on 11/15/2006 7:21:49 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah.

Why does 'Global Warming' seem to affect the north more than the south?

If it's 'global' the effects should be evenly distributed.

It's bunk.


9 posted on 11/15/2006 7:22:02 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'll be so glad when I don't have to look at, or listen to, this dipshit. When is the next dipshit due?


10 posted on 11/15/2006 7:22:24 AM PST by mutley
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To: NormsRevenge

"Global warming" prevention makes perfect sense only when you overstate the (imagined) benefits by a factor of 10 and understate the (very real) costs by a factor of 10. (Of course, that also ignores the point that the goal is increased government control rather than any environmental benefit.)


11 posted on 11/15/2006 7:23:26 AM PST by Bob
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To: All

Change of climate may be happening, but human activities are not the cause.

The Earth is not a static environment. Never has, never been.


12 posted on 11/15/2006 7:24:00 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: NormsRevenge

When are we going to get out of the UN???? And this far-gone brain dead idiot needs to leave the planet.....

He is the biggest crook walking....he even beats old bj clinton and his dyke wife....


13 posted on 11/15/2006 7:27:00 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: HarleyLady27

Under Clinton the vote was 97-0 against it


14 posted on 11/15/2006 7:28:20 AM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

Then why are we still there??????


15 posted on 11/15/2006 7:29:01 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: mutley

Maybe it will be the first black president Bill Clinton. He fits your description.


16 posted on 11/15/2006 7:32:29 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: NormsRevenge

Global Warming is Annan's best gimmick for getting real power for the UN and taxing authority.


17 posted on 11/15/2006 7:33:09 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: NormsRevenge
There is some IMO interesting discussion of these questions over on the Martin Wolf "Economists' Forum" on the Financial Times site, a forum where whatever topic is being published in the FT slot given over to Wolf or his guest author is discussed by a invitation-only panel of economists.

The Forum top level is here:

http://blogs.ft.com/wolfforum/

You usually have to scroll back a week or so to find a substantial number of comments on a thread.
18 posted on 11/15/2006 7:35:22 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: Bigh4u2
It's not a 'saving the earth' treaty, but a 'money making' treaty.

Right you are.

Carbon tax, BTU tax, call it what you want, it's a centralized power and money making scam.

19 posted on 11/15/2006 7:38:15 AM PST by Ole Okie
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"Carbon tax, BTU tax, call it what you want, it's a centralized power and money making scam."

Yep. And if we ever sign on to this 'con', we are the ones that are going to be 'footing the bill' for the rest of the world because, since we 'pollute' more than any other nation, trading or bartering 'credits' won't be allowed.

It's the same old 'take from the haves and give to the have nots'.


20 posted on 11/15/2006 7:44:18 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

Supposedly it is because the continents are not evenly distributed, there is more land area in the north. (Supposedly the warming effect is amplified in the north because there is less snow and ice, and the bare ground absorbs more heat than the white reflective ice or snow did.)


21 posted on 11/15/2006 7:51:56 AM PST by megatherium
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To: NormsRevenge

How appropriate that AnAnus spews this global warming sh*t.


22 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:49 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (We'll stop calling you liberals,liberals, as soon as we find a better word for "sh*t for brains" .)
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To: NormsRevenge

It would cost the entire U.S. far less in the long-term if "entitlement reforms" are successfully resolved as soon as possible instead of nothing being done up to this point! I call it ironic when the political left feels the way that it does with the issue of global warming, but when it comes to all of the U.S. entitlement programs, don't change anything even when there's a need to do so asap!


23 posted on 11/15/2006 7:54:28 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: megatherium

Ummm...ok.

Supposedly!


24 posted on 11/15/2006 8:08:03 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: NormsRevenge
same priority as they did to wars and to curbing the spread of weapons of mass destruction

Oh, in other words- do nothing?

25 posted on 11/15/2006 8:13:18 AM PST by techcor
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To: NormsRevenge
I have a great idea, Kofi. Let's do a worldwide five year crash program to replace oil as an energy source. How do you vote, OPEC?
26 posted on 11/15/2006 8:16:00 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wasn't Enron set up to take advantage of global warming hoopla? May all global warmenists meet the same fate.


27 posted on 11/15/2006 8:27:12 AM PST by redbaiter
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