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Giuliani 'Unacceptable' for President, Conservatives Say
CNSNews ^ | November 15, 2006 | Randy Hall

Posted on 11/15/2006 7:30:55 AM PST by 300magnum

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani enjoys "a lot of good will" from Republicans from his handling of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but his stance on social issues like abortion and gun control make him an unacceptable candidate in the 2008 presidential election, according to conservative analysts.

Giuliani, who announced Monday that he has filed papers to form an exploratory committee as the first step towards a White House run, is "absolutely unacceptable under any circumstances" as a presidential candidate, Colleen Parro, executive director of the Republican National Coalition for Life, told Cybercast News Service.

"The core values of the Republican Party with respect to life issues -- which is where our main concern is -- and the issues of the homosexual movement, etc., cause his candidacy for the nomination to just be dead in the water," she said.

Giuliani has described himself as "pro-choice" and said he would not support a ban on partial-birth abortions. He promoted gun control programs and civil unions for same-sex partners during his two terms as New York City mayor.

While serving in that post, Giuliani saw his private life become a regular subject of media scrutiny, especially in 2000, when he announced at a press conference that he was seeking a separation from his second wife without first telling her of his decision.

"Despite Giuliani's charm and his obvious leadership abilities, as far as social and cultural issues are concerned, not only his personal life but his public views make him unacceptable," Parro said.

Supporters of a Giuliani bid launched a group a year ago called Draft Rudy Giuliani for President.

Co-founder Nicholas Tyszka said in a statement this week that, "with the current climate [of divisiveness] in Washington," Giuliani would be an excellent nominee, as "he has such a broad base of appeal, even cutting across political lines."

The group, whose other co-founder is veteran Republican political consultant Allen Fore, said that "America needs and wants this great man to lead our nation."

"Named Time Magazine's 'Person of the Year' in 2001, Rudy Giuliani has been a proven leader during one of the toughest periods in American history," the organization's website states.

"Giuliani exemplifies leadership, courage and compassion," it says. "Rudy Giuliani has dedicated his professional life to serving the United States, including assistant attorney general in the U.S. Justice Department under President Reagan and as the crime-fighting U.S. attorney in the state of New York.

"He has an unrivaled record of honesty and integrity, always putting the people's interest above politics," the website continues. "His service as mayor of New York City, particularly after the devastating terrorist attacks against our country on September 11, 2001, made him America's mayor. Now it's time to make him America's president."

Although forming an exploratory committee does not guarantee that an individual will run for president, Giuliani's announcement Monday drew a quick response from the Democratic National Committee:

"It's unclear whether or not Rudy Giuliani will be able to just 'explain away' the fact that he's consistently taken positions that are completely opposite to the conservative Republican base on issues they hold near and dear," said DNC Communications Director Karen Finney in a press statement.

"Throughout his career, Giuliani has tried to paint himself as a moderate, but now that he's vying for his party's nomination, will he undergo an extreme makeover in an attempt to cozy up to the far right?" Finney asked.

The DNC also issued a speedy response after Sen. John McCain made a similar announcement on Sunday.

Brian Darling, director of Senate relations for the conservative Heritage Foundation, told Cybercast News Service that "it's going to be virtually impossible for Giuliani to woo voters who put the Second Amendment and family values as their top issues."

However, Giuliani "clearly has a lot of good will with Republicans, and his goal should be to shore up his conservative credentials on the issues of federal spending and anti-terrorism," Darling said.

Since he was mayor of New York City during 9/11, Giuliani "can trumpet anti-terrorism as one of his major policies. But he also needs to talk about limiting the federal government and restricting out-of-control federal spending so he can shore up support among conservatives who care about pocketbook issues," Darling said.

While acknowledging that Giuliani is "a presumptive front-runner" for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, Darling said the former mayor is enjoying good poll numbers "merely because he has high name recognition."

Strong approval figures don't guarantee victories when the party's primaries begin, Darling noted.

"Just ask [early 2004 Democratic front-runner] Howard Dean about that," he said.


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To: arthurus
I disagree about him being unelectable. I'm Republican and I had no problem voting for him as Mayor and will have no problem voting for him as President.

As for his marital problems. I have learned that NO ONE knows what goes on in a mariage other than the couple no matter waht anyone tries to tell you. I know of MANY situations (my own family included) that from the outside seem to be perhaps unreasonable but from the inside are a completely different story. I do not judge because I have learned from experience not to.

221 posted on 11/15/2006 6:24:33 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: blinachka

Were I a New Yorker, I should surely have voted for Giuliani for mayor. Nothing better is apt to be available, ever.
New Your is not the USA, it is not even Chicago. Giuliani is eminently electable in New York. I wish he had run for governor there.He is a liberal with one aberration in his approach to crime. In New Your that is the only sort who can possibly be elected mayor. He deals with crime sensibly. That makes him a diamond in a place like New York.Infidelity and divorce are indicators of a sense of loyalty. An unfaithful husband who goes to lengths to hide and does not flaunt his infidelities at least is not really comfortable with disloyalty. He believes in loyalty even as he skirts it. A Giuliani run might be good for Republicans who are hearing that the late election showed that traditional morality was proved inconsequential by the voters. A Giuliani run will show that is not the case.


222 posted on 11/15/2006 8:00:50 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: 300magnum

Wait and see. If the terrorists show their hand again, this could all change.


223 posted on 11/15/2006 8:02:16 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Noumenon
Keep your chin up, my good man, as well as your powder dry. We have to keep our eyes on the prize and stay optimistic, for that "can do" attitude is what created this greatest of all nations to start with, and will continue to preserve it.

Just imagine how George Washington must have felt at Valley Forge. He never lost faith, nor must we, even when it seems that "the odds are against us and the situtation is grim".

"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst". Mr. Washington said that, too. We could sure use a man like him today. Lacking that, it looks like it's up to us, who still remember what it truly means to be "American".

Stay well,

Joe B.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

224 posted on 11/16/2006 5:23:16 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: JFC

The reason you lost the last election was because you turned your backs on conservatives.

So...basically you're promising to do the same thing in the next election...and expect different results.

What's the definition of insanity?


225 posted on 11/16/2006 5:33:40 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Wombat101

Well...whatever it takes...you just couldn't support a conservative instead...so that everyone could come out and vote...

...except maybe you?


226 posted on 11/16/2006 5:35:19 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: areafiftyone

You didn't want to hear from us prior to this last election either...so...

...why do you hate winning elections so much?


227 posted on 11/16/2006 5:38:10 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: BunnySlippers

You've tried this in every Republican election you've lost.

Care to simply run a conservative yet or are you going to persist in your demands for Mrs. Bill Clinton, President of the United States of America?


228 posted on 11/16/2006 5:39:33 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Wombat101

I see...so unity is good unless it's a conservativce candidate.


229 posted on 11/16/2006 5:42:25 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: 300magnum

He's less unacceptable than John McCain.

I'm just sayin'


230 posted on 11/16/2006 5:43:50 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Mike Pence for House Minority Leader and John Shadegg for Whip)
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To: BunnySlippers

History has demonstrated that a liberal Republican candidate cannot generate the votes necessary to win in an election.

Don't vote for who you like in the primaries. Vote for a conservative...or we'll lose the next election the same way we lost this one.


231 posted on 11/16/2006 5:44:47 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: EEDUDE

Yes, conservatives like myself plead for conservative candidates to replace RINOs in the primaries.

People like Wombat and bunnyslippers demanded moderates and RINOs for their "electability".

The results are history.


232 posted on 11/16/2006 5:48:08 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: 300magnum
I'm not completely writing Giuliani off. But he will have to persuade me--and soon--that he has had a genuine and lasting conversion to Ronald Reagan conservatism across the board.

I especially want to see an honest, firm, and undeviating commitment to the appointment of SCOTUS justices in the philosophical (not just technical ability) model of a Scalia or an Alito.

For now, I'm hoping for a Romney-Sanford or Romney-Barbour ticket.

233 posted on 11/16/2006 5:49:16 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Maelstrom
You didn't want to hear from us prior to this last election either...so...

...why do you hate winning elections so much?

HUH?

234 posted on 11/16/2006 5:51:13 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Got a better idea - cook for yourself and to Hell with both of 'em. If the 'Pubbies choose either of them for their candidates, they are obviously NOT our party...


235 posted on 11/16/2006 5:54:46 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: Little Ray

"If the 'Pubbies choose either of them for their candidates, they are obviously NOT our party..."

I wanted Allen. With that done, I am going for Gingrich. he seems to be the only one with the intelligence to actually unerstand what is going on and convey that message.


236 posted on 11/16/2006 5:59:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Newt would be good presidential material if his private life wasn't even MORE lurid than Bill Clinton's; I used to live in his district - there is a reason he retired. At least Bill and Hill stuck together...

Dunno who the 'Pubbies are going to put up, but they better come up with someone else quick or I'm going to be skipping that line on my ballot.
237 posted on 11/16/2006 6:07:07 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: 300magnum

I will not vote for anyone who is pro-abortion, pro-choice and killing of unborn children, demorat or republican.


238 posted on 11/16/2006 6:18:27 AM PST by usslsm51
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To: Little Ray

"Dunno who the 'Pubbies are going to put up, but they better come up with someone else quick or I'm going to be skipping that line on my ballot."

Like many of us did this election.


239 posted on 11/16/2006 6:25:37 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Nope. I never skip an election. My Senators and my representave are satisfactory, so far. The Senators were not up for election and my rep (along with my Republican governor) was re-elected handily.
Then again, I'm from Georgia. I think the 'Pubbies actually picked up seats here...

I will, however, skip the presidential line on the ballot if the 'Pubbies decide that a RINOs and / or a whack job should be their candidate.


240 posted on 11/16/2006 6:29:44 AM PST by Little Ray
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