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To: Brilliant; Dane
Dane, sitting on the East Coast, is determined to make out the AZ election loss for JD related to immigration. It wasn't. It was his district being so heavily ASU and the students really went all out this election to defeat JD. One only need to a blog search to find some of the sites.

JD lost because of ASU being in his district, Abramhoff $$, lobby $$ for his wife and stemcells... those were the non-stop ads against him. No where did Mitchell run ads that JD was too tough on illegal immigration. Dane knows this, but, like I said, it doesn't fit with his mission -- if he'd ever really explain to us why he is so hot for this country to be over run with illegal immigration.

BTW we had four ammendments specifically against Illegal -- like English only -- and all four passed. That's how much Arizonan's are against Illegal immigration.

A side note: Today they want to dump Howard Dean, but Doctor Dean has upped the interest in voting at the University level and we need to figure out how to tap into that.

18 posted on 11/15/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"A side note: Today they want to dump Howard Dean, but Doctor Dean has upped the interest in voting at the University level and we need to figure out how to tap into that."

YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!

THAT'S good news - he and Pelosi are about as helpful to the Dems as John F. Kerry was a few weeks ago.


24 posted on 11/15/2006 1:37:34 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Dane, sitting on the East Coast, is determined to make out the AZ election loss for JD related to immigration. It wasn't. It was his district being so heavily ASU and the students really went all out this election to defeat JD.<

Then answer me this Carolyn, why did Hayworth with 60% of the vote in the last midterm in 2002. He had the same district, and the vote totals are appx. the same.

Sorry Carolyn there was no "surge" by ASU students. The surge was against J.D. Hayworth by reliable tax paying voters.

39 posted on 11/15/2006 1:52:43 PM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Dane

Thank you, AC, that's what i thought was going on. I cannot BELIEVE Dane started A SECOND thread about this 3-4 hours after the first one. Anyone including Mel Martinez who believes that ANY congress critter was defeated for a stand on NO amnesty/illegal immigration ONLY hasn't looked at any facts or are chasing moonbeams trying to bolster their position.


76 posted on 11/15/2006 3:42:22 PM PST by libbylu
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