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To: spikeytx86
>>>>>You would have to apply that standard to almost every Republican in elected office in the past 10 years then.

Reagan didn't have control of the House, that means he didn't have control of the purse strings. Yet Reagan was able to reduce welfare state expenditures by some 4% a year over his eight years in office. Reagan then applied those savings to his military buildup. Newt came along with his Contract With America and spending was reduced to its lowest levels in 25 years. And Newt was able to balance the budget in the process and we had a surplus for three years.

When Rudy reduced the welfare rolls, he should have taken those savings and reduced the budget or the debt. When Rudy left office, his admin projected a $2.0 billion deficit. That exploded to $4.5 billion. What part of that was due to 9-11, I don't know. Good leadership makes the right adjustments. Crime dropped under Rudy, and went down even further under Mike Bloomberg. That doesn't mean I'm willing to vote for Mayor Mike for Prez.

You know what I think. I think you're a closet liberal.

24 posted on 11/15/2006 11:00:48 PM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man
"You know what I think. I think you're a closet liberal."

Yep I am a pelosi plant.

Is it even remotely possible to have a debate on a presidential contender around here without being labeled a liberal because we disagree?

"Reagan didn't have control of the House, that means he didn't have control of the purse strings. Yet Reagan was able to reduce welfare state expenditures by some 4% a year over his eight years in office."

I said going back a decade. Today's Republican Party and the Republican Party of Reagan and Gingrich are very different parties. Also don't forget Reagan had the support of "Reagan Democrats" in which were quite sizable giving him a defacto majority on a lot of issues.

From the end of the government shut down on it has been downhill for fiscal discipline in Washington and you know it.

Again if a Reagenesque conservative enters the race then I will most likely back him. But there ain't no one like that on the scene. So if it is between Giuliani or McCain then I am going Giuliani. You never no it could be like the 92' democratic primary where all the big candidates dropped out and a relative no body came along and took the nomination. It could happen to us this time around. But as of today my money is with Giuliani. As the race starts to get underway a year from now I may be backing someone else. If we cant debate who our leader is going to be without delving into paranoia and attacking each other then we are f**k'd as a party.
26 posted on 11/15/2006 11:11:21 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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