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To: jude24

You are very ignorant of Scripture, and life. Scripture, because you are ignoring a TON of irrevocable promises God made concerning Israel (including in Romans 11). Ignorant of life because you have the audacity to compare Assad with Bush. In short, get saved. It will change your outlook.


55 posted on 11/16/2006 7:29:54 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Alright. Your post is Defense's Exhibit A of everything that is wrong with American Evangelical Christianity.

You are very ignorant of Scripture, and life. Scripture, because you are ignoring a TON of irrevocable promises God made concerning Israel (including in Romans 11).

You assume that I am ignorant, because I hold to a view you think is contrary to Scripture. You ignore passages like Galatians 3 (which teaches that the Church is the beneficiary of the Abrahamic covenant) and 1Pe. 2 (which ascribes to the Church the benefits of the Sinaitic covenant); as well as the unanimous teaching of Christianity until the mid-1800's.

Ignorant of life because you have the audacity to compare Assad with Bush. In short, get saved. It will change your outlook.

This is even more offensive. I'm "unsaved," because I believe the actions Pres. Bush took have caused unnecessary suffering of civilians in Iraq? Somehow, Evangelical Christians came to assume that Jesus Christ was a white, middle-class Republican and therefore infer that anyone who disagrees with the Republican Party must disagree with Christianity. Never mind that Christians were the driving force behind the Social Reforms of the early 1900's. Never mind that the Bible commands compassion - including financial support - for the alien, the orphan, and the widow. (Sounds a lot like a rudimentary welfare program!) Never mind that the Old Testament is littered with prohibitions against exploitation of workers. "Blessed are the peacemakers" must be ignored, since that must be the teachings of some hippie radical.

Thankfully, Christianity is experiencing a resurgence of radical orthodoxy. It's orthodox, because it recognizes the teachings of historic Christianity (and so cannot really be called theologically "liberal,") but it is radical in its application to its day-to-day life. Warren isn't really a part of that movement (he's too into the commoditization of Christianity to be a part of it), but it would appear that he is certainly not an enemy.

62 posted on 11/16/2006 7:51:36 AM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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