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Homeschooling: Freeper Needs Guidance on *Effective* and *Proven* Programs
quesney | quesney

Posted on 11/16/2006 7:13:57 AM PST by quesney

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To: meandog
Studies also show that while homeschooling may have merits for some kids, most children do not get what they need to excel in a "real world" environment.

I strongly disagree here. The real world's work environment is very much NOT like academia.

Parents, being parents, cannot be objective and unbiased about academic performance. They have not been schooled in certain educational theory (Madaline Hunter, Piaget, Gagne`, Gardner, Renzulli, etc., etc.).

In other words, they have not been initiated into the fraternity of teachers. You're attempting to act as a gatekeeper in this regard.

I submit to you that there was such a thing as excellence in education before your theorists were born, and it's readily available to those who have never even heard of Piaget et. al.

Come to grips with the idea that training does not give a teacher (not even you) a monopoly on efficacy. You cannot corner the market, short of government intervention.

61 posted on 11/16/2006 8:43:49 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: TalonDJ
Nonsense. Even when homeschooling parents have only a highschool education, on average their kids beat the national averages. A teaching degree is almost a joke.

...I believe, if you'll do some real research, you'll find that you're comparing apples to oranges as the home-schooled kid is pitted against the public school one. Public schools are far more expansive, have a huge degree of lower socio-economic status kids and those from single-parent homes so it is unfair to draw this conclusion. Try pitting your figures against private school students. Also, you might want to check out the academic stars each year in periodicals such as USA today--you'll find that they are almost always exclusive to the non-homeschooled class.

62 posted on 11/16/2006 8:45:10 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: hsmomx3

We use a lot of Rod and Staff, just not for math.


63 posted on 11/16/2006 8:45:24 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: meandog
teachers are extremely more qualified than parents in the education of children

One of my master's degrees is in Education. This proves your statement false -- I as a mere parent am likely more qualified than the typical teacher to education my kids.

65 posted on 11/16/2006 8:46:48 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: hsmomx3
Are you a teacher?

Currently, I am a M.Ed. candidate...hope to teach social studies again soon in a public high school setting.

66 posted on 11/16/2006 8:47:18 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: quesney

Great question!


67 posted on 11/16/2006 8:47:28 AM PST by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: dubie

Is that the same charter school that the Santorum family uses?


68 posted on 11/16/2006 8:47:42 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Theo; meandog
...to education my kids...

Oh...ouch.

70 posted on 11/16/2006 8:49:30 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Theo
I as a mere parent am likely more qualified than the typical teacher to education (sic) my kids.

Of course, you're free to do that, "mere parent," but please note that the "typical teacher" would be trying to teach your kids rather than "education" them.

71 posted on 11/16/2006 8:51:29 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog
Studies also show that while homeschooling may have merits for some kids, most children do not get what they need to excel in a "real world" environment.

The oldest anti-homeschooling phallacy in the book.

Parents, being parents, cannot be objective and unbiased about academic performance.

Of course parents can correctly evaluate their children's academic performance. It really strikes me that you're not familiar with modern homeschooling.

They have not been schooled in certain educational theory (Madaline Hunter, Piaget, Gagne`, Gardner, Renzulli, etc., etc.).

Yes, I have. I am a mere parent, and I studied these folks in grad school. That said, why is it that you think you can't be a good teacher unless you've studied Piaget? Were students before these folks were around ignorant and uneducated? Ridiculous and arrogant.

72 posted on 11/16/2006 8:51:49 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: meandog
Also, you might want to check out the academic stars each year in periodicals such as USA today--you'll find that they are almost always exclusive to the non-homeschooled class.

It would be profoundly difficult for USA Today to locate and contact academic achievers among homeschoolers prior to graduation. I suspect that accounts for their lack of representation in the pages of that august periodical.

73 posted on 11/16/2006 8:52:27 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

I guess my entire argument is rendered invalid because in my haste I misspelled a word.


74 posted on 11/16/2006 8:54:49 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: meandog

Quite boorish of you to invalidate my argument because I misspelled a word. I'll keep an eye on your spelling, master teacher.


75 posted on 11/16/2006 8:55:55 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Oberon; Tirian; Moose Dung; hsmomx3
Question: When your child is sick, do you take him/her to a doctor or someone who practices homeopathic medicine?
When you have a legal problem, do you represent yourself in court?
If your basement is flooding because of a leak, do you try to fix it yourself or call a plumber?

Teachers are professionals too!

76 posted on 11/16/2006 8:56:20 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: quesney

Here is a list of some curriculum used be many HSers:

School of Tomorrow
http://www.schooloftomorrow.com/

Alpha Omega
http://www.alpha-omega-publications.com/

ABEKA
http://www.abeka.com/

Bob Jones
http://www.dhss.com/bobjones.htm

Ambleside Online
The Ambleside Online curriculum is a free homeschooling curriculum designed to be a modern equivalent to the curriculum that Charlotte Mason (CM) used in her own PNEU schools. Though not quite CM-in-a-box, a homeschool guide such as this can be a... Mason's high literary standards. Ambleside Online uses the highest quality books and more
http://www.amblesideonline.org

Christian Liberty Press
http://ebiz.netopia.com/clpress/

Cornerstone
http://cornerstonecurriculum.com/

Christian Liberty Press
www.christianlibertypress.com

The Foundation for American Christian Education
www.face.net

Heart of Wisdom
www.heartofwisdom.com

How Great Thou Art
www.howgreatthouart.com

Veritas Press
www.veritaspress.com

Vision Forum
www.visionforum.com

Curriculum Reviews
Cathy Duffy’s Reviews
www.cathyduffyreviews.com

Home Schooling Curriculum Reviews and Archives
www.homeschoolreviews.com

Algebra
http://www.mathrelief.com/


77 posted on 11/16/2006 8:56:42 AM PST by banalblues (God help us all.)
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To: Theo
I guess my entire argument is rendered invalid because in my haste I misspelled a word.

Well, of course not. It's just that I hate to see someone fumble when they're about to score.

The fallacy you cite, I note, is precisely the one that meandog used in his answer to your post. I guess even reading Piaget can't rescue a person from being petty.

78 posted on 11/16/2006 8:57:20 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Theo
Quite boorish of you to invalidate my argument because I misspelled a word. I'll keep an eye on your spelling, master teacher.

You didn't misspell it, you misused it.

79 posted on 11/16/2006 8:57:43 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog

Petty. If you represent the kind of teacher to whom you're encouraging us to send our kids, then no thanks.


80 posted on 11/16/2006 9:00:48 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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