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Dodd Bill May Be First Candidate for Bush Veto
Now Public ^ | 11/17/06 | Nuke Gingrich

Posted on 11/17/2006 8:14:54 PM PST by grandpa jones

In a surprising move yesterday, Christopher Dodd (D-CT) announced that he would introduce legislation to guarantee US Constitutional Rights to enemy combatants, and would seek to repeal portions of the recently enacted Military Commissions Act.

source: "It's clear the people who perpetrated these horrendous crimes against our country and our people have no moral compass and deserve to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But in taking away their legal rights, the rights first codified in our country's Constitution, we're taking away our own moral compass, as well."

If Dodd believes that last week's election was a mandate for this radical approach to dealing with enemy combatants, then the next two years may provide entertainment from DC not seen in a long time.

(Excerpt) Read more at nowpublic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; alqaedabillofrights; detaineerights; enemycombatants; veto
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This guy disgusts me
1 posted on 11/17/2006 8:14:59 PM PST by grandpa jones
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To: grandpa jones

He is a treasonous son of a bitch!!!


2 posted on 11/17/2006 8:17:15 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: grandpa jones

We have had since day one a two front insurgency. Sadly the party of deception has victimized the masses that they are numbed with pain and are blind and dumb to the reality of this world.


3 posted on 11/17/2006 8:17:33 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: grandpa jones

Do it, Dodd. Do it.

Of course, the MSM will give them a pass. God, they're a disgusting cabal.


4 posted on 11/17/2006 8:17:59 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: grandpa jones

If this even makes it to the veto pen, we have great reason to worry about the future. I don't think it could possibly make it past the Senate.


5 posted on 11/17/2006 8:19:26 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: grandpa jones

Dodd is a nutcase.


6 posted on 11/17/2006 8:19:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: IslandJeff; grandpa jones
Do it, Dodd. Do it.

I think there are probably quite a few DemocRATS who don't want to be forced to vote for this bill.

7 posted on 11/17/2006 8:20:41 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Plays perfectly in Peoria: I can't wait to see the House vote.


8 posted on 11/17/2006 8:20:42 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: Paleo Conservative

this is a congress killer......Do it Dodd and you will be eaten by your own


9 posted on 11/17/2006 8:22:14 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: grandpa jones

Good this will be a good start to drawing a distinction between the Rats and Pubbies.

He'S one of the JARS - Just Another Rat Scumbag.


10 posted on 11/17/2006 8:22:44 PM PST by Leto
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To: Paleo Conservative

Perfect storm for the good guys. Just like that House Resolution last year to just pull out of Iraq.

Show yourselves. Come out and play. I think I might just call Chris' office on Monday.


11 posted on 11/17/2006 8:24:26 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: IslandJeff
Yup. It ought to be fun to watch.

Wonder what's wrong with the servers?

12 posted on 11/17/2006 9:01:18 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

Despicable!


13 posted on 11/17/2006 9:01:53 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: grandpa jones
"It's clear the people who perpetrated these horrendous crimes against our country and our people have no moral compass... "
These are not people [people have human rights] but beasts in human shape. That being so, the concept of "rights", constitutional or not, does not apply. The only thing which does apply, is the concept of cruelty to animals.
14 posted on 11/17/2006 9:01:53 PM PST by GSlob
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To: grandpa jones

Democrats: In love with terrorists since before 9-11.


15 posted on 11/17/2006 9:04:23 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: grandpa jones
Thank you, soft squishy middle and cut-and-run republicans, look what you have given us. /TotalDisgust

The good news is that most people will get it in '08 that the RATs cannot handle national security ... if the country is still here.

16 posted on 11/17/2006 9:06:20 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: grandpa jones

Sounds like a lawyer employment act to me.


17 posted on 11/17/2006 9:06:44 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: muawiyah

Dodd never met a terrorist he didn't secretly want to fellate.


18 posted on 11/17/2006 9:08:03 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: grandpa jones

I'm hoping the Dems do alot more of this!!! The more they pull this type of garbage, the more the American public sees who they really are. They won this past election partly because they ran a bunch of folks as moderate to conservative Dems. Gotta do something to bring out their true colors.


19 posted on 11/17/2006 9:08:07 PM PST by jokova
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To: GSlob

Bingo... these animals barely satisfy the definition of Homo sapien, and that only by virtue of their DNA.

But 'people'? 'Human'? They are neither.


20 posted on 11/17/2006 9:14:51 PM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: grandpa jones
Zarqawi, after 5 years we finally nailed your ass, but before we go any further, where is the interperter?

"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you."

Ask him if he understands these rights?

Yes he does and he says, "He wants Osama Bin Ladin to represent him".

Good take him away, gently now.

It's a hell of a way to run a war!!

21 posted on 11/17/2006 9:22:18 PM PST by PISANO
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To: PISANO
uhh wait a minute, don't forget your prayer rug and your toilet paper kuran
22 posted on 11/17/2006 9:25:51 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

Dodd and the Dims wanna give the al queda types an even quicker path to citizenship than the illegal immigrants might get.

Will he move to give the terrorists the right to vote, and sex change operations while incarcerated?

Let him and Pelosi and all the loons have the bully pulpit, so that all of America may see how treasonous and insance they are.

Bin Laden reads the headlines, wherever he is, and sleeps warmly tonight, knowing his allies on the Left are looking after his well-being.


23 posted on 11/17/2006 9:33:47 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: jokova; NonValueAdded

This type of over-reaching is just what is needed to draw the sharp distinction that is needed.
Plus, we need Republicans who don't want to spend so much of the taxpayers money, but that's another story for another day.


24 posted on 11/17/2006 9:35:24 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Just mythoughts; IslandJeff

the funny thing is, this type of folderal has been coming out of their mouths for the past 6 years, and they keep getting a pass from the dinosaur media. If the people of CT believed that terrorists deserved Constitutional rights, then Lieberman wouldn't have won.


26 posted on 11/17/2006 9:38:59 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

The Dems are setting themselves up to be the minority party once again come 2008.


27 posted on 11/17/2006 9:39:46 PM PST by AVNevis (In memory of Emily Keyes (1990-2006))
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To: Paleo Conservative; perfect_rovian_storm

I wouldn't think that it would even make it out of committee, but you ought to see how the lefty blogs are playing this up. Dodd will restore habeas corpus, and other such nonsense.


28 posted on 11/17/2006 9:41:33 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: AVNevis

from your lips to God's ear


29 posted on 11/17/2006 9:43:00 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

The lefty blogs are full of people that have never seen their party in power since they've been paying attention. They're about to get a rude awakening as to what that means.

The Dems are also coming back to "power" for the first time in the age of the New Media. They've never had to deal with their words being broadcast for the world to hear in the matter of minutes.


30 posted on 11/17/2006 9:45:26 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: grandpa jones

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged."
---- Abraham Lincoln


31 posted on 11/17/2006 9:46:16 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; GSlob; afraidfortherepublic

Dodd is acting like he's still on the back-bench, hurling firebombs at Bush and the Republicans. I think I might go over and cache his website before he decides he's stepped in poo with this one, and decides to take it down.


32 posted on 11/17/2006 9:46:44 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

Dodd is a typical leftist. He wants to grant rights to foreign terrorists and war criminals even as he wants to take away the Second Amendment rights of citizens.


33 posted on 11/17/2006 9:50:51 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: peggybac; perfect_rovian_storm
Well, if the SOB tries to backpedal on this one, Here is a picture of his website, with an exact quote of his own words.
http://snapshot.jkn.com/761649.723153031607
34 posted on 11/17/2006 9:51:38 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: jwfiv
"Bin Laden reads the headlines, wherever he is, and sleeps warmly tonight, knowing his allies on the Left are looking after his well-being."

Our guys and gals over there read the headlines, too. I pray that they can at least look at sites like FR and know that the whole world hasn't gone crazy

35 posted on 11/17/2006 9:54:35 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: grandpa jones

"... But in taking away their legal rights....."

this is a twisted concept expressed by a mind that can't think straight. How can he remember this garbage long enough to repeat it?

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS. HOW LOUD DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS?!


36 posted on 11/17/2006 10:07:26 PM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: grandpa jones
Amendment XIV - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

If Amendment XIV gave us those rights, how does this clown Dodd think he can establish those rights for his terrorist buddies without a Constitutional amendment?

Section 8 of the Constitution grants the Senate some power but only as shown

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

They can make the rule concerning the capture but I don't see where the Senate gets to grant "constitutional Rights" to scum.

As far as their "Moral Compass" and prosecuting them, the best solution is found in this basic instruction:

Aim Center, Squeeze

37 posted on 11/17/2006 10:08:00 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: grandpa jones

Barry Goldwater had it right 40 years ago when he suggested chopping off the northeast and letting it float out to see.

It's amazing - no vetos in nearly six years. That could be why spending is so high.


38 posted on 11/17/2006 10:10:11 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Dodd has always had the "hots" for Castro.


39 posted on 11/17/2006 10:12:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: grandpa jones

BINGO. Let them fight this war on their terms: the "Blue Dogs" vs. the REAL dems. Ultimately, the MSM has to choose a side. It's up to us to fight for the next hill while they jerk around.

Hell, even your most jaded LA Times editorial board might catch a clue.

Frankly, had this past election been "about the war", we'd have done better, I'm convinced.

You're spot on about Lieberman: even friggin Connecticut, electing a nominal Independent, knows what's at stake.

[Great thread, Gramps. Thanks for letting me vent.]


40 posted on 11/17/2006 10:13:15 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: IslandJeff

any time my friend


41 posted on 11/17/2006 10:44:13 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: WildBill2275

well said


42 posted on 11/17/2006 10:47:16 PM PST by grandpa jones (Responding To The Epic Threat)
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To: All; grandpa jones



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NEVER FORGET


Then DNC Chair CHRIS DODD was handed $400,000 in Communist Vietnam money by then CLINTON White House Commerce Secretary RON BROWN, after RON's return home.


A Communist Vietnam, after we abandoned a then Free South Vietnam to them, gave for all the world to see:



Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


NEVER FORGET

.


43 posted on 11/17/2006 11:07:05 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

bttt


44 posted on 11/17/2006 11:08:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: grandpa jones

What the Heck is Now Public and who is Nuke Gingrich?


45 posted on 11/17/2006 11:13:15 PM PST by Brimack34 (I hate the MSM)
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To: grandpa jones

Bush won't have to veto it. There is no way in hell it'll get 51 votes, even with the D's controlling the Senate.

I'm willing to bet that Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Pryor, Lincoln, Landreiu, Johnson, Webb, Casey, Baucus, Tester, and Salazar won't vote for it.


46 posted on 11/17/2006 11:18:55 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

The point, though, is to MAKE them do it.


47 posted on 11/17/2006 11:21:06 PM PST by IslandJeff (FR mail me to be added to the Type I Diabetes ping list)
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To: muawiyah; grandpa jones

<< Dodd is a nutcase. >>

Dodd, as, in both houses, are scores, perhaps hundreds, of others, is an alcoholic.

And one must never underestimate the evil inherent in every common-garden alcoholic.

Or doubt that since 1776 alcoholics have been and continue to be responsible for almost every single act of evil ever perpetrated by the United States' Congress or signed into Law by an alcoholic president.

Of whom the most prominent recently was Lyndon Baines Johnson, whose alcoholism was the architect of and micro-managed the national disaster we call the Vietnam War.


48 posted on 11/17/2006 11:22:34 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

<< NEVER FORGET


Then DNC Chair CHRIS DODD was handed $400,000 in Communist Vietnam money by then CLINTON White House Commerce Secretary RON BROWN, after RON's return home.


A Communist Vietnam, after we abandoned a then Free South Vietnam to them, gave for all the world to see:



Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


NEVER FORGET >>

God bless you Ronnie.

Got yah sixes.

#48 ping.


49 posted on 11/17/2006 11:25:06 PM PST by Brian Allen ("Moral issues are always terribly complex, for someone without principles." - G K Chesterton)
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To: grandpa jones

This could come back to bite Dodd and his chums on the ass real bad. Of course the president will veto it, so I hope he does introduce the bill.


50 posted on 11/18/2006 12:12:40 AM PST by Northern Alliance
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