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What are the four U.S. Carriers doing in the Gulf?
Al Jazeera ^ | November 18 | Staff

Posted on 11/18/2006 10:15:36 AM PST by PghBaldy

As the American President George W. Bush steps up threatening rhetoric against Iran to force it suspend its nuclear program, calling for worldwide isolation of Tehran until it “gives up its nuclear ambitions,” experts predict that the coming days would see a much violent step by Washington against the Islamic Republic.

What asserts the experts’ fears is the fact that on October 31, two nuclear-powered carriers, the USS Eisenhower and USS Enterprise, arrived in Bahrain, accompanied by their carrier strike groups. And on November 9th, the USS Iwo Jima, and the USS Boxer also arrived.

Is President Bush up to something? Asked Rense.com

On October 11, American officials announced that the U.S., Bahrain and other states will hold their first naval exercise in the Gulf to practice interdicting ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

The exercises, organized under the U.S.-led 66-member Proliferation Security Initiative and the first to be based in the Gulf near Bahrain, across from Iran, came as Washington and the European Union member states are pushing for imposing sanctions including possible interdiction of ships on North Korea, following its announcement of carrying out nuclear test, and on Iran, which the U.S., backed by Israel and the EU, claims is preparing to produce nuclear weapons.

Iran considers Washington- sponsored war games in the Persian Gulf, off the Iranian coastline as a provocation aimed at creating a situation of direct confrontation between the U.S. and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf, although a senior U.S. official insisted that the exercise is not aimed specifically at Iran.

About the exercises, which experts say reinforces a U.S. strategy aimed at strengthening America’s ties with the Gulf states, which Tehran and Washington are engaged in a fierce competition to win influence over, the official, speaking on condition of anonymity claimed:

"It’s an effort to bring a lot of Gulf states together to demonstrate resolve and readiness to act against proliferation."

"Reports say the U.S.-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious. The Iranian foreign ministry official said the U.S.-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said." (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006)

But some analysts reject the idea that the U.S. plans for another war while its army is struggling in Iraq after the situation there worsened beyond the Bush administration and its war allies’ expectations.

The Proliferation Security Initiative is a global initiative, launched in 2003 under President George W. Bush with the aim of stopping shipments of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), includes a group of countries willing to share intelligence information to combat proliferation of WMD, including through military exercises.

North Korea has already announced having nuclear weapons capability, but Iran rejects the United States and other major powers’ accusations that its developing a nuclear weapons program, insisting its nuclear program is solely aimed at peaceful purposes, including power generation.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombirannow; iran; israel; persiangulf; wot
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1 posted on 11/18/2006 10:15:39 AM PST by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

It sure took them a while to notice them...

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2 posted on 11/18/2006 10:17:12 AM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: PghBaldy

Kick ass!


3 posted on 11/18/2006 10:18:31 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: PghBaldy
What are 4 carriers doing in the Gulf?

Hopefully......floating!!

4 posted on 11/18/2006 10:19:42 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Logic n' Reason

Maybe they are there for the weather. Winter's comin' fast here at home.


5 posted on 11/18/2006 10:21:41 AM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: PghBaldy

We don't consider the Iwo and Boxer to be carriers, though they have flight decks for helos and VTOL.


6 posted on 11/18/2006 10:23:02 AM PST by SampleMan (Do not dispute the peacefulness of Islam, so as not to send Muslims into violent outrage.)
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To: PghBaldy
What are the four U.S. Carriers doing in the Gulf?

Getting ready to pour some whoopass on Amadinayabbadabbadoo.
7 posted on 11/18/2006 10:23:43 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: PghBaldy

If there are 4 carriers in the area, the water below has to be quite crowded.


8 posted on 11/18/2006 10:23:52 AM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: PghBaldy
It would make sense to strategically redeploy out of Iraq through Iran before the Democrats in Congress cut the funding for Iraq. Of course, that would make for a longer trip back to Syria on the way home.

It's that or wait for Israel to clean up the area.

9 posted on 11/18/2006 10:24:26 AM PST by Bernard (Going without a tagline to see how it feels.)
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To: Paladin2

Bahrain's lovely this time of year.


10 posted on 11/18/2006 10:25:13 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: Paladin2

Too true!!


11 posted on 11/18/2006 10:25:37 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: PghBaldy
Dear Al Jazeera.

You may fear Allah

But we are bringing God, Moses, Jesus and whole lot of firepower down on your butt....Deal with it.


12 posted on 11/18/2006 10:25:51 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: SampleMan
Yeah. They are LPH's that each carry about a battalion of marines.
13 posted on 11/18/2006 10:26:19 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: gonzo

Ping!


14 posted on 11/18/2006 10:27:00 AM PST by fat city (What part of cognitive dissonance don't you understand?)
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To: PghBaldy

In a related question, "What's that big, wet spot spreading across the front of Skippy Ahmadinejad's khaki pants?"


15 posted on 11/18/2006 10:27:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America! It's off with the desert BDUs and on with the lavender burqas!!!)
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To: PghBaldy
"You don't see four aircraft carriers in the gulf" "move along now".

signed, Obi-Whan Kenobi
16 posted on 11/18/2006 10:27:07 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: PghBaldy

Q: What are 4 carriers doing in the gulf?
A: Anything they want to do.


17 posted on 11/18/2006 10:27:14 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Bernard
It would make sense to strategically redeploy out of Iraq through Iran before the Democrats in Congress cut the funding for Iraq. Of course, that would make for a longer trip back to Syria on the way home.

I like the way you think.

18 posted on 11/18/2006 10:28:05 AM PST by TheDon (Are you a cut and run conservative?)
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To: Bernard; All

Israel can handle Syria....


19 posted on 11/18/2006 10:28:23 AM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: PghBaldy

Practicing...


20 posted on 11/18/2006 10:29:01 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: PghBaldy
Akmawhatsittoya threatened to use the Iranian Navy to CLOSE the Straits of Hormuz. Should he be so foolish, there will no longer be an Iran Navy and quite possibly no more whats his name.
21 posted on 11/18/2006 10:29:06 AM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: advance_copy
Getting ready to pour some whoopass on Amadinayabbadabbadoo.

That's right. If you look closely at that pic of the carrier above, you can clearly see numerous 55-gallon drums labeled "Military Grade Whoopass". ;-)
22 posted on 11/18/2006 10:30:50 AM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: PghBaldy
Sailing sailing
over the bounding main.

What else?

23 posted on 11/18/2006 10:31:29 AM PST by JasonC
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To: PghBaldy

What's the matter, Al J.? Scared?


24 posted on 11/18/2006 10:33:11 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: PghBaldy
WARNING: If you post on Al Jazeera's comments, note they DISPLAY your IP ADDRESS.

So do they block TOR? Check out Torpark...

Torpark

25 posted on 11/18/2006 10:33:11 AM PST by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: KevinDavis
Israel can handle Syria....

I agree with that, but the question is, do we want Israel actually in hostilities, or should we handle it?

26 posted on 11/18/2006 10:34:19 AM PST by Bernard (Going without a tagline to see how it feels.)
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To: Bernard; All

I think we should take care of Iran and have Israel handle Syria..


27 posted on 11/18/2006 10:35:21 AM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: Bernard
I saw Benjamin Netanyahoo on Glen Beck last night and he said the longer we wait to hit Iran the larger the force it would take to neutralize their nuclear program.

If we, or Israel, or both of us, hit Iran the Iranians are going to be madder than hornets. So if we do a strike we might as well take out their military, their airfields, ports, their leadership, their terrorist camps, and whatever resources they have staged to block the Strait of Hormuz, all at the same time. An Action like this would either unleash a huge war or scare the sh*t out of the entire world as happened when we first went into Iraq.
28 posted on 11/18/2006 10:35:32 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: PghBaldy

29 posted on 11/18/2006 10:35:40 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: PghBaldy
Our MILITARY has the MIGHT but our nation does NOT have the WILL!!

We must get politicians in office and Flag Officers in our Military that KNOW how to WIN WARS, that a completely PC DEAF, who put the JAG corps out of war zones and back into court rooms were they belong, and institute ROE that do NOT maximize OUR OWN casualties and minimize the enemy and civilian casualties!!

30 posted on 11/18/2006 10:36:24 AM PST by PISANO
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To: PghBaldy

10 Signs That the United States is About to Bomb Iran

Before any major military operation, there are always tell tale signs. With all the talk about Israel or the United States bombing Iran's nuclear weapons program, it would be wise to check for the signs before taking the pundit prattle too seriously.


1. – The U.S. Navy stages a "surge exercise" and moves six carrier battle groups into the Indian Ocean.



2. – A "regularly scheduled exercise" moves Patriot Missile Batteies to Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia. These exercises happen from time to time, but if they happen when other things are happening…



3. -- Movement of B-52 and B1B bombers to the island of Diego Garcia (in the Indian Ocean).



4. -- Deployment of F117 stealth bombers and F-22 fighters to anywhere in the Persian Gulf.



5. -- Deployment of B-2 Stealth Bombers to Guam, where there are special facilities for maintaining these aircraft.



6. -- Lockdown of Whitman Air Force Base (where most B-2 bombers are stationed) in Missouri.



7. -- Increased delivery of Pizza to Pentagon



8. –Sudden loss of cell service near some air force bases (from which heavy bombers would depart). At the same time, there would be sightings of Middle Eastern looking guys around these bases, trying to get their cell phones to work, while being observed by what appears to be FBI agents.



9. Deployment of KC-135/KC-10 aerial tankers to Diego Garcia, Guam and the Persian Gulf.



10. America asks nations neighboring Iran for basing and over flight rights.


These warning signs are no secret, and intelligence officers regularly run down their check lists. As a result, nations will sometimes stage a false alert by deliberately performing many of the items on someone's check list, with no intention of following through.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/topten/articles/20060222.aspx


31 posted on 11/18/2006 10:36:49 AM PST by FLOutdoorsman
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To: PghBaldy

Uh, same reason Bush stopped in Moscow to talk with Putin this week...

and the press reported with a straight face that it was required for fuel. They are so stupid.


32 posted on 11/18/2006 10:38:08 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Kirkwood

Q: What are 4 carriers doing in the gulf?
A: Anything they want to do.

17 posted on 11/18/2006 12:27:14 PM CST by Kirkwood



We have a winner!!


33 posted on 11/18/2006 10:39:16 AM PST by EternalVigilance (I'll stop believing in fences when they tear down the one around the White House...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They are LHA's the LPH's bigger meaner younger brothers.


34 posted on 11/18/2006 10:40:11 AM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: Kirkwood
I can only hope we got the straight intelligence data this time.
35 posted on 11/18/2006 10:40:19 AM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: PghBaldy

It's really 2 carrier battle groups and 2 amphibious warfare battle groups, double the normal complement. The purpose is open to speculation: Most likely to add weight to diplomacy and shore up the Gulf States. Or for those of a more Machiavellian bent, to rope-a-dope Iran and shore up oil prices. The last time the Iranian navy took on the U.S. Navy, Iran lost 1/3 of its surface fleet in an afternoon. A naval attack would open the way for an aerial attack on Iranian WMD sities. For confirmation, watch for air assets to move to Incirlik and Al Udied.


36 posted on 11/18/2006 10:40:29 AM PST by Man of the Right
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To: FLOutdoorsman
The Pentagon doesn't have its own pizza ovens?
37 posted on 11/18/2006 10:41:43 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: Bernard
Israel can handle Syria....

Despite the showing in Lebanon, Israel can handle any, and/or everyone. How do I know? I read the book and I skipped through to the ending. Oh...and I believe the author.

Be well...

38 posted on 11/18/2006 10:41:51 AM PST by Wingy
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To: PghBaldy

Don't know the name of the carrier depicted here. FYI, the Enterprise battle group returned to Norfolk, Virginia today. Guess that makes only three carriers in the Gulf. I'm one of those who did notice those carriers in the Gulf.


39 posted on 11/18/2006 10:43:56 AM PST by tob2 ( "I may not be perfect but I'm always me." Anon.)
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To: PghBaldy

http://www.doha-2006.com/gis/menuroot/sports/sports.aspx


40 posted on 11/18/2006 10:44:44 AM PST by dakine
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To: PghBaldy

Ain't nothin' prettier!

In another lifetime I was a Navy Wife. We were assigned to the USS Kitty Hawk out of San Deigo. That ship is awesome, and I recommend anyone who ever has a chance to tour a carrier to jump at the chance. It's an amazing feat of engineering; a regular "floating city."

And it doesn't hurt that those Navy pilots are darn handsome, polite and sexy as h#ll! ;)


41 posted on 11/18/2006 10:45:31 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: PghBaldy
I'm just glad that someone over there is losing sleep wondering what the carriers are up to.
42 posted on 11/18/2006 10:48:00 AM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: PghBaldy
What are the four U.S. Carriers doing in the Gulf?

Their job?

43 posted on 11/18/2006 10:48:19 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

11. KA-BOOM!

(Repeat step 11. as needed.) :)


44 posted on 11/18/2006 10:50:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Rumplemeyer
LOL

Your post made me laugh! Laughter a good thing, Thank you.

45 posted on 11/18/2006 10:51:15 AM PST by BARLF
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To: usmcobra
Thanks. It's been a few years. I was on the old U.S.S. Boxer twice in the 1960's as part of a Marine Battalion Landing Team. The old Boxer, as you know, was converted from an aircraft carrier to an LPH. It would hold two marine rifle companies and a headquarters company. As a carrier, the Boxer was the first to launch a jet aircraft.
46 posted on 11/18/2006 10:52:25 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: PghBaldy

uh, its al jazeera. what makes anybody think that what they are reporting is actually true? like the iranians claiming we have special forces in Tehran trying to overthrow their government?


47 posted on 11/18/2006 10:56:02 AM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
-- Increased delivery of Pizza to Pentagon

I'm redirecting 25% of my portfolio to Domino's Pizza!

48 posted on 11/18/2006 10:56:53 AM PST by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: PghBaldy

Don't worry, they're redeploying to Okinawa.


49 posted on 11/18/2006 10:58:33 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: 7thOF7th

LOL


50 posted on 11/18/2006 11:00:01 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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