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Rep. Rangel will seek to reinstate draft
AP via Yahoo! ^ | November 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2006 10:30:36 AM PST by Brilliant

A senior House Democrat said Sunday he will introduce legislation to reinstate the military draft, asserting that current troop levels are insufficient to sustain possible challenges against Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," said Rep. Charles Rangel (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose the measure early next year.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," he said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, incoming chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 — now about 16 million — from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conscription; draft; iraq; rangel; war
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To: Brilliant
Cannon Fodder BUMP.....
Multi-Millions of aborted babies are NOT ENOUGH...
"Party of Death".... ping..
121 posted on 11/19/2006 11:31:03 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: leadpenny
lead I have to tell you, as I remember the Vietnam war, the anti draft sentiment was very high among college students. The protests began in the universities before they spilled over into the streets. They created the incentive the North needed to stay the course.

Ask Kerry he could tell you all about it.

122 posted on 11/19/2006 11:31:26 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Cvengr
Isn't it just like Rengel's generation of socialist democrats to protest the most when they were of draft age, but as soon as they have power, insist younger generations give more than they did?

Well, I do seem to recall reading somewhere that actually, Charlie Rangle DID serve in the USMC.

I also seem to recall that the republican leadership gave Rangle a "put up or shut up" moment. I believe that the leadership brought up his bill for a vote, and it didn't get a single vote: Even Rangle voted against it.

Mark

123 posted on 11/19/2006 11:33:04 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: SirLinksalot

There are no women registered. 15 million men are in the system however.


124 posted on 11/19/2006 11:34:22 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: mware

Some who volunteer now have to be placed in special training units.


125 posted on 11/19/2006 11:35:10 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Brilliant
"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress,

Why did you democRATS vote for the invasion of Iraq then?

126 posted on 11/19/2006 11:36:05 AM PST by Mogollon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 year olds are first, chosen by birthday lottery, then 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 18, 19


127 posted on 11/19/2006 11:37:10 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Brilliant
Has anyone mentioned the fact that Rangel introduced a draft bill last year and HE voted against it? I don't think the bill got even got one vote. Why isn't this mentioned in any of the articles?
128 posted on 11/19/2006 11:38:07 AM PST by Bush Revolution (You gotta believe)
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To: mware

All true. How did FDR get away with it and LBJ didn't?

I submit that WWII was a necessary war and Vietnam wasn't.


129 posted on 11/19/2006 11:38:07 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Brilliant; All

Turn up speakers to LOUD: ARMY STRONG


130 posted on 11/19/2006 11:38:17 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: BurbankKarl

In any given year.


131 posted on 11/19/2006 11:39:48 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

lead, I won't argue that point with you, but you don't put your greatest treasure, (the youth of America) into a war that the government is not willing to win.


132 posted on 11/19/2006 11:40:13 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Cvengr

If the 'Rats reinstate the draft, the 'Rats can kiss the entire college vote good bye...now and in the future.


133 posted on 11/19/2006 11:43:04 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: leadpenny
leadpenny;

We will have to agree to disagree on this issue.

My opinion on this issue is based on the low level unit and it's operations, not the feelings at the national or high level military level.

If you check back on my posts in this thread you will see that I acknowledge that the vast majority of draftees would serve well.

The few who do not want to get drafted, whether they get in, burn their cards or go to Canada will cause problems way beyond their numbers.
134 posted on 11/19/2006 11:43:15 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Brilliant

um, what the f? what are you frickin retarded?

I should shut up now so that the dems will continue to crash and burn but, what the f?


135 posted on 11/19/2006 11:43:17 AM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (proud sponsor of the "helmets for democrats" foundation)
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To: mware
The Media Distortion  http://www.viet-myths.net/AimImpact.wmv

136 posted on 11/19/2006 11:43:44 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: leadpenny

Well I'm sure many people remember it and had brothers, sons and cousins going off to fight a war they wanted no part of. Many went because it was their duty and never came home. Or they came home so messed up on agent orange that they later took their own lives. Yea I remember the draft all right and that war. I remember the crying mothers whose son's numbers came up and the ones who sighed with relief when their sons didn't. I also remember the funerals too. So next time you comment on me get the whole thing in would you? Don't leave out what I had to say and print part of it. It went like this.......
I think the draft is a bad idea because I remember it. All too well I remember the college riots and I was only like 9 or 10 yrs old. I think forcing the military on someone doesn't make for a good soldier but then I've never had to serve. I do remember parents ready to send their sons to Canada though.


137 posted on 11/19/2006 11:43:50 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( barbaric with zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: bws53

How about drafting all those thugs who have killed, assaulted and robbed innocent civilians going about their business buying video games? Their violence can be put to good use on the battlefield against the enemy.


138 posted on 11/19/2006 11:44:18 AM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: mware

Are you saying it's ok to put volunteers into a war that the "government" (which is us) is not willing to win but not ok to use draftees in the same war?


139 posted on 11/19/2006 11:44:27 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: deport
He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Aren't these the same people who don't think welfare reciepients should have to do public service to offset some of their money?

140 posted on 11/19/2006 11:45:30 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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