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Woman loses fight to wear cross (British Airways; video available)
The BBC ^ | November 20, 2006

Posted on 11/20/2006 10:02:29 AM PST by Stoat

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However, an upside-down cross would've been perfectly acceptable.

21 posted on 11/20/2006 11:03:53 AM PST by Oratam
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To: badbass
meant an employee turning up for work with a ‘three foot cross must be allowed to wear it because to hide such a cross under their uniform would be impractical’.

This lady really needs to find a 3 foot cross to bring to work. With appropriate notice to all news media of course. Mark my words. Political correctness versus Islam isn't going to cut it, and will be the death of our culture.

And our great, modern culture will be destroyed by a sixth-century bloodthirsty cult, aided and abetted by cowards and traitors from our own soil.

22 posted on 11/20/2006 11:11:57 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: cbkaty
All Christians see this train coming down the track....it only gets worse....the closer we get...

Observant Jews do as well, and they have seen this sort of threat before, most recently using the symbol of the swastika.  Now, it's the niquab and the turban.  The symbols change but the underlying threat under the rhetoric remains the same.

23 posted on 11/20/2006 11:16:25 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: par4
The only way that I can see to stop this nonsense is for all Christian passengers to refuse to deal with any BA personnel wearing turbans, hajibs, whatever those painted on dots are called etc.

Pleasently ask for assistance from someone not wearing religious symbols. It might gum up the works a bit.

A very nice thought, although I'm guessing that the tangible result would mainly manifest itself in your getting quickly and quietly escorted from the airline terminal and charged with a Hate Crime, as the only people wearing religious symbols would be Muslims.

24 posted on 11/20/2006 11:20:05 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

What's the difference in permitting islamics to wear their scarves, burkas, etc. and wearing the cross? BA is "gagging at a gnat and swallowing a camel" as my poor blessed mother always says.


25 posted on 11/20/2006 11:20:22 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
What's the difference in permitting islamics to wear their scarves, burkas, etc. and wearing the cross? BA is "gagging at a gnat and swallowing a camel" as my poor blessed mother always says.

The difference is that the Cross is a symbol of peace and the burqha, niquab, turban, etc. have become symbols of death and violence.  British Airways knows that they will instantly become a target of murderous Islamic terrorism if they were to enforce this ban equally across the board.

Your mother is quite wise and has a great gift for insightful phrases.

26 posted on 11/20/2006 11:26:54 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: badbass

What if she wore a headscarf with a cross on it? Would that be OK?


27 posted on 11/20/2006 11:29:07 AM PST by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: cbkaty

I'm glad I bought my wife a cross necklace for her to wear.


28 posted on 11/20/2006 11:36:48 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Stoat

Thank you. My sainted mama's background is English and Irish. She comes up with some of these good ones. One time she caught me by surprise at a weak moment and piped up with one of these sayings and I wet my pants due to uncontrollable laughter.


29 posted on 11/20/2006 11:37:52 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Stoat

'those painted on dots are called'

BULLSEYES


30 posted on 11/20/2006 11:38:55 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: BlessedBeGod
BA clearly has a written policy that allows head coverings by Muslim employees (Kufi & Hijab).
I have no idea if they have Sikh employees, and if they do they assuredly allow turbins and the ritual bladed instruments carried by those individuals.
I have every belief that they do NOT employ Jews.
BA has never been a workplace friendly site for Jooooooos.
And certainly BA would use industrial strength acid as a laxative before allowing a Kippa or Magen David to be worn.
31 posted on 11/20/2006 11:45:25 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Glenlivet 18 and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
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To: Stoat

She should show up wearing a scapular.


32 posted on 11/20/2006 11:48:49 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: Stoat

Wear a burqa with a big crucifix stenciled all over it.


33 posted on 11/20/2006 11:52:32 AM PST by redstates4ever
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To: Stoat

When I went to England in 2002 I was checked in by a female customs agent in a hijab. She was displaying her face though, the brazen hussy.


34 posted on 11/20/2006 11:52:44 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: par4

Support religious freedom. Boycott British Airways.


35 posted on 11/20/2006 11:53:36 AM PST by redstates4ever
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To: lilylangtree
Thank you.

You're welcome   :-)

My sainted mama's background is English and Irish.

Momma Stoat's forebears hailed from England and Scotland, although one time a lady in London "insisted" that I must be Irish, even though I am quite unfortunate to have been born in the People's Republic of Washington State (I feel a greater kinship to Texas and other 'Red' States, as opposed to the Socialist hellhole of Washington).  I'm guessing that it's because she was accustomed to American movies which usually portray Americans as being breathtakingly inarticulate, and the Irish are renowned for great literature and poetry, among other things.  I think that the fact that I was able to put forth a coherent sentence threw her off   :-)

She comes up with some of these good ones. One time she caught me by surprise at a weak moment and piped up with one of these sayings and I wet my pants due to uncontrollable laughter.

I won't tell anyone if you won't   :-)

Ladies are the Light of the Universe and the Crown of all Creation, and good mothers, such as yours, deserve heartfelt adoration from all of us..

 

36 posted on 11/20/2006 11:55:57 AM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

This story was posted about a month ago on FR. There are lots of employers in the U.S. who would ban wearing such a cross as a safety issue. I've been to such places and had to remove my wedding band as part of a safety policy. It's designed to reduce injuries when loose jewelery get caught in mechanical equipment. They do have baggage conveyors at check in desks and small chains like that have been caught up in equipment before.


37 posted on 11/20/2006 11:56:02 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30
This story was posted about a month ago on FR.

The original conflicts pertaining to this were documented on many threads, but not this final decision....that just happened and I posted this article only a few hours after it was published by the BBC. No other FR thread has documented this final decision.

There are lots of employers in the U.S. who would ban wearing such a cross as a safety issue. I've been to such places and had to remove my wedding band as part of a safety policy. It's designed to reduce injuries when loose jewelery get caught in mechanical equipment. They do have baggage conveyors at check in desks and small chains like that have been caught up in equipment before.

There is no indication that this conflict has anything to do with safety issues.  It is a tiny cross on a short chain and the problem, as most see it,  is that British Airways is banning this Cross but not banning Muslim religious symbols such as veils, burhkhas, niquabs and turbans, which, by the way, would present a far greater hazard of getting caught up in machinery.

38 posted on 11/20/2006 12:06:11 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
"It is important to wear it to express my faith so that other people will know that Jesus loves them."

This is not something I need when I am checking in for a flight.
39 posted on 11/20/2006 12:16:08 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stoat
Wouldn't it be more practical for the other religions to change their head-wear symbols into pins and pendants, so that a standard code could be established? Or do Christian flight attendants have to find some impractical head-wear, say, a crown of thorns, to indicate their personal belief?
40 posted on 11/20/2006 12:18:19 PM PST by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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