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Woman, 92, fatally shot as 3 Atlanta officers wounded
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 11/21/06 | JEFFRY SCOTT, S.A. REID

Posted on 11/21/2006 9:12:54 PM PST by Hazcat

92-year-old woman was killed after she shot three Atlanta narcotics officers Tuesday night when they broke down the front door of her home trying to serve a search warrant, police said.

One officer was hit in the arm, one was struck in the shoulder, and one was shot in the thigh. All were rushed to Grady Memorial Hospital, where they were in stable condition late Tuesday night. Police did not release their identities.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; banglist; donutwatch; jackboots; jbts; warondrugs; wodlist
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I'm glad to hear it was the perp who lost his head and the good guy lived.


61 posted on 11/21/2006 10:17:39 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Hazcat

92 year old living in high crime area, hard of hearing perhaps or in the back room. Doesn't hear anyone yell POLICE or perhaps just hears someone yellin on the porch but doesn't hear what. Looks out window sees three dudes in plainclothes with guns advancing with purpose on her property towards her house.

Does the math "Damn punks is trying to get me" and does the only thing any of us would do when faced with a gang attack she opens fire quickly and sends em packin only to find out she was outgunned.

Its certainly a possible scenario from the viewpoint of the woman.

I'll say this for her. She was one heck of a shot. Three shots three hits.

To bad for all involved granny and the law.


62 posted on 11/21/2006 10:24:07 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: takenoprisoner

I frequently use the /s tag, but I was hoping the absurdity of my questions wouldn't require it. Regardless, my reaction was the same as yours. It's time for the rest of America to wake up and realize that the war on drugs has failed.


63 posted on 11/21/2006 10:27:38 PM PST by highimpact
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To: Mjaye
Sad event, but likely there were other circumstances not disclosed. When the thugs use Grandma's address as their own, they subject that property to search and seizure as per their probation/parole conditions, nice thing to do to Grandma. I've dealt with many a mad Granny, but it doesn't usually end up tragic like this case.

Sad event? How bout tragic most horrifying event?

When the thugs use grandma's house, everyone should know and find a way to catch the sorry low life bastard on the street.

64 posted on 11/21/2006 10:27:49 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Hazcat

It's a shame she didn't have a family dog to shoot as well.


65 posted on 11/21/2006 10:30:15 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: highimpact

They were indeed absurd. Beg your pardon. And we agree.


66 posted on 11/21/2006 10:32:21 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Hazcat

My "things that go bump in the night" choice is a 12 ga pump, I reckon that the sound of a jackboot against the door would cause me to start a dynamic unload.
There should be some extra effort made to investigate, before kicking down someones door. Anyone can stand on the front porch, and claim to be cops.


67 posted on 11/21/2006 10:33:58 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: gipper81

My bet is they yelled Police as they broke down the door and rushed in. The article says it was a crime ridden neighborhood, so her rusted gun probably was close by.

By what isn't being said makes me think the Atlanta cops screwed up somewhere, big time and a 92 year old woman paid.


68 posted on 11/21/2006 10:37:00 PM PST by DakotaRed (Kerry Should Resign!)
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To: Sir Gawain

"It's a shame she didn't have a family dog to shoot as well."

That would have been icing on the cake. /s


69 posted on 11/21/2006 10:37:00 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: lesser_satan
They were plainclothes cops. If ANYBODY not weraing a uniform kicked my door in, I'd shoot their asses too.

Amen to that! But I'd probably be shooting a 12 ga or a 7.62X39.

70 posted on 11/21/2006 10:48:25 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: lesser_satan
Flowers will get you in any door with a smile.


71 posted on 11/21/2006 10:51:48 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: FreedomCalls
"I knew it wasn't the cops because they don't bust through your door wearing ski masks," said Macek, 47.

I wouldn't bet on that.

72 posted on 11/21/2006 10:57:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Mjaye
Before everyone assumes the cops screwed up, it's very common for thugs/dope dealers to lie and use Grandma's address as their residence to the parole/probation officer or court.

I'd call that a major srewup. Impeach the judge who issues a warrant on info like that.

73 posted on 11/21/2006 11:12:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
My last day as a cop saw me pull off an amazing feat of marksmanship: after catching three rounds, one of them in the lung, I somehow managed to fire four shots from my revolver. One of them hit the perp in the right eye and blew his entire freakin' head open.

Afterward. were you mumbling "I'm getting too old for this sh!t" while your captain was threatening to bust you down to traffic cop?

j/k
74 posted on 11/21/2006 11:19:52 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Hazcat
Botched Raids & Collateral Casualties in the Drug War

Drug War Victims

75 posted on 11/21/2006 11:20:46 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: Mjaye
Before everyone assumes the cops screwed up, it's very common for thugs/dope dealers to lie and use Grandma's address as their residence to the parole/probation officer or court.
Sometimes they actually live there, often they just keep stuff there or use the property from time to time. If an actual warrant was obtained, then there was other info indicating criminal activity at the location.

A little due diligence is in order in situations like this.

Daily surveillance of the home in question for some period of time (a few days at least) to verify that the residence is truly a drug house.

If it is verified that the home is indeed a drug house there are two approaches that could have prevented this tragedy.

Monitor the home for a day and wait for the dealer to leave the residence. Then make a traditional service of warrant. (Uniformed police, knock, identify and search). After the home is entered and drugs found arrest the perp.

Monitor the home for a day and wait for the dealer to enter the residence. Perform your no knock raid as soon as possible.

I have read of similar No Knocks performed on no more than the word of an informant who was not even made to point out the home only gave an address.

Warrants are to be issued on sworn affidavit that a crime is believed to have been committed. Judges need to require more than the word of informants before issuing search warrants (particularly when many informants are criminals with extensive criminal records themselves simply looking for favorable treatment) . The police need to do some work to be more certain that they have the correct home.

Those who act with out practicing due diligence must be held accountable especially when innocents are harmed.

It appears that an innocent woman has lost her life due to the failure of narcotics detectives to be sure of their facts. Those in the position to make the decision to make a no knock raid on this house must be held accountable for their failure to ensure that they had the correct home and that actions were take to ensure the safety of the innocent.

76 posted on 11/22/2006 12:56:31 AM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Hazcat
Cops are more dangerous sometimes than the people their trying to protect and serve.

What gets me is how brother cops always try to cover no matter how grievous their stupidity.

Surely these guys knew whether or not this lady was home alone and her age.

I'll wait a bit further for more false evidence before drawing a firm conclusion.
77 posted on 11/22/2006 1:04:38 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
Well theres one less crazy woman in the world so thats a good thing.

I don't think we're getting the whole story here. So I can't judge what truly happened, but on the surface this sounds like the cops FUBAR'd on this big time.

OTOH, in their defense, in the first property I purchased and rennovated, the old lady next door turned out to be a drug dealer. I learned this after the first raid on her property. We sold not too long after that to what looked like a group of people or families that wanted to live in the house. To top it all off, she complained to me about them being foreigners.

78 posted on 11/22/2006 1:09:10 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: fr_freak
Afterward. were you mumbling "I'm getting too old for this sh!t" while your captain was threatening to bust you down to traffic cop?

No, I was trying not to die in the ICU.

79 posted on 11/22/2006 4:52:27 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Republicans are told to court "the base," which translates to Arabic as "al-Qaeda.")
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To: Hazcat

whatever happened to just knocking on the door and showing the owner the warrant?

SWAT wannabes watched too many episodes of The Shield


80 posted on 11/22/2006 6:39:14 AM PST by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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